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			<title>Climate change deniers: NASA report verifies carbon dioxide actually cools atmosphere</title>
			<link>http://metabunk.org/threads/1630-Climate-change-deniers-NASA-report-verifies-carbon-dioxide-actually-cools-atmosphere?goto=newpost</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 16:42:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<dc:creator>Kevin45345</dc:creator>
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			<title>DOJ investigation of the AP debunk the government controlling the media?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 05:03:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>So the government controls the media (as many CTs claim) but the government was worried what it controlled was going to leak top secret information...</description>
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			<dc:creator>Soulfly</dc:creator>
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			<title>Have any debunkers created bunk to discredit bunk believers?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 00:50:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm just wondering if there have ever been any attempts by skeptics or debunkers to create a conspiracy or add bunk to an already existing conspiracy...]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>Soulfly</dc:creator>
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			<title>Potential saveable guy</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 05:48:42 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey Jay and Mick.  I'm having a talk with a person called EmGBlackout under the following video...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey Jay and Mick.  I'm having a talk with a person called EmGBlackout under the following video <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCohucT7FmQ&amp;lc=2iFxYiWncVcughH0cN8ry0czDshZbhfOccQh2iwzs-E&amp;feature=em-comment_reply_received&amp;lch=email_reply" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCohu...ch=email_reply</a>  He seems prepared to think after having been super aggressive (I was a paid disinformation agent, apparently)  Would be cool if you guys with more knowledge than I have could get over there.   PS I go by &quot;lizoir&quot; on YouTube.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Neil Pennington</dc:creator>
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			<title>Hello, a discussion about memes and their influence on bunk.</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 05:36:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello all,  
Just wanted to make a thread to introduce myself. My names Rich and I am a skeptic. Besides researching already debunked or current...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello all, <br />
Just wanted to make a thread to introduce myself. My names Rich and I am a skeptic. Besides researching already debunked or current theories, I have never tried to debunk anything other than trying to convince my hippie friends the science behind things. I figured I would try my first discussion here but not directly try and debunk something but point out how sometimes people try and create conspiracies using the wrong things as examples. I got into reading about bunk and conspiracies lately mostly due to friends on social media bombarding me with memes. Don't get me wrong I love a good meme, if it makes sense. I don't like memes that use imagery and words designed to elicit fear and/or anger as the first emotion. I say if someones intention is to get people mad or scared, at least have your facts right or use examples that make sense. <br />
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I couldn't for the life of me find a copy of the meme I will discuss, I will try and give the gist of it best I can. If anyone has the meme please post it. The meme talks about how there is a U.S. government (left wing?) conspiracy to suppress green or renewable energy and to prove this point they site Iceland as an example because Iceland produces 100% of its electricity with renewable energy. I don't know if  the PTB are conspiring to hold anything back or not, I have not researched it all that much. My gripe is that Iceland's energy model is based on hydro and geothermal power, about 75% and 25% (depending on source) respectively. Geothermal also heats a large portion (87%) of homes and business. Right off the bat I say to myself the U.S. probably could produce that much hydro power but would we want to? I say no since that would require building more dams. Currently the U.S. produces about 66.8% of the renewable power through hydro and renewable only accounts for about 13% of energy in the U.S.<br />
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Just to put things into perspective, Iceland only has a population of about 325,000 and its hydro and geothermal plants produce a max of 1,155mw and 200mw respectively. The U.S. Produces more megawatts of renewable energy than Iceland by a long shot, just not 100% of its total output. Also a large portion of the power produce is used for aluminum mining and that process is not very green. For the simple reason that the amount of energy being produced is so small compared to the U.S. I believe using Iceland as an example for the conspiracy is a faulty one.<br />
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I hope this subject is not off topic at all. I invite anyone to give their thoughts, not only on what you think of this particular meme but if there are memes you have seen that you think are giving bunk or are misleading. Or just the overall influence memes are having in getting people to believe in bunk. I will also invite anyone's thoughts on if you think or don't think it is a conspiracy that renewable energy is being held back.<br />
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I hope the days of 100% green and renewable energy for the world are close.<br />
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<a href="http://www.icetradedirectory.com/english/industry_sectors_in_iceland/energy_in_iceland/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.icetradedirectory.com/eng...gy_in_iceland/</a></div>

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			<dc:creator>Soulfly</dc:creator>
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			<title>Articles, Wiki, Politeness, Psychology</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 23:57:57 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I ran across this article and I found it useful. A systematic debunking of global warming deniers.  http://grist.org/series/skeptics/ 
 
I would like...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I ran across this article and I found it useful. A systematic debunking of global warming deniers.  <a href="http://grist.org/series/skeptics/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://grist.org/series/skeptics/</a><br />
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I would like to see master-debunking articles like that here on metabunk. I wonder if adding a wiki is the right format for it. Though, the format at grist is pretty workable: it lets people comment on each sub-point that is delineated in response to the theory. <br />
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I'd also like to work up an article/wiki/forum about the psychology behind bunk-believers. I hope I'm not drifting outside the lines of the politeness policy. But like many, I have years of pent up anger at the assault on reason, and insulting behavior, coming from the bunkers. My point though is, can we summarize where they are coming from, and how to quickly and effectively stiff-arm or sidestep them in general. And this of course involves some psychology. And of course its fair game to analyze ourselves psychologically, or see what the bunkers say about our psychology, though of course its tricky to do this and stay polite. I mean I think this is why the debates get so heated, because its almost deeper than discussing religion or politics, its discussing people's bedrock beliefs.<br />
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I say this partly because, in my experience, when I say to them &quot;can we just agree to disagree&quot; they say NO WE CAN'T, and then they call me names. And thus in my experience, IT NEVER ENDS. I predict we will see this played out in this forum. Hear me now, believe me later. Thus, my interest in discovering the psychological underpinnings of the bunkers and conspiracy guys, and exploiting it. Either politely, or also by specifying how to best push their buttons or throw it back in their faces, e.g. by embroidering new theories or conflating their theories, in small or large scale <i>reductio ad absurdum</i>. Again I'm sorry if this is over the line but I really think it should be put on the table and faced squarely.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
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			<title>wow and hello!</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 00:40:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[After what feels like years of being out in the cold, sporadically arguing with the 'believers' on Youtube, thank god there is a place here to try...]]></description>
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I'm Pete, from the UK and I'm looking forward to 'discussing' things with some chemtrail folk (to be kind).</div>

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			<title>Adam Kokesh Open Carry March Agent Provocateur</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 14:02:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEgR1OZoY2Y Agent Provocateur Adam Korkesh</description>
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			<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
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			<title>Energy from moonlight?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 05:37:23 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[This just showed up on my wall.  I know I won't have any time to research it, until next week.  It seems dodgy to me at first glance. 
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<a href="http://inhabitat.com/rawlemon%E2%80%99s-spherical-solar-energy-generating-globes-can-even-harvest-energy-from-moonlight/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://inhabitat.com/rawlemon%E2%80%...rom-moonlight/</a></div>

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			<dc:creator>Cairenn</dc:creator>
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			<title>Hello and challenge</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 23:07:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi all 
 
I have joined so I could alert the members about a challenge being put forth by chemtrail advocate Dane Wigington. 
He states that no one...</description>
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I have joined so I could alert the members about a challenge being put forth by chemtrail advocate Dane Wigington.<br />
He states that no one will take him up on his challenge for debate. I'm not sure how anyone could reach him in response, but somebody from here should take him up on it. Maybe just invite him here. He asserts that no debunker has a factual leg to stand on and that all you/we have is ad hom attacks. It's on this vid at about 18:30.   <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkb2NZ5SPgU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkb2NZ5SPgU</a>  <br />
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			<title>747 Crash in Afganistan</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 03:04:38 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Now if i were a pilot in a war zone . That would be something to fear . *Terrifying & Tragic Video Captures the Moment a 747 Crashes in Afghanistan  ...]]></description>
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			<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
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			<title>Efficiency and Innovation in State Owned vs. Private Companies</title>
			<link>http://metabunk.org/threads/1545-Efficiency-and-Innovation-in-State-Owned-vs-Private-Companies?goto=newpost</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 23:39:51 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[*[Mick: Tread spilt and retitled from: http://metabunk.org/threads/177-GMO-conspiracy-theories/page9]* 
 
 
Do you realize the environmental problems...]]></description>
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Do you realize the environmental problems that government owned businesses cause?  Start with Chernobyl, that plant would have never been allowed to be built in the US.  The melt down at Fukishima was of 3 reactors and yet there was less radiation released.  That was because they were built by business with government oversight (they should have been build differently). Look at the problems in Eastern Europe and the USSR.  <br />
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Can you give us 3 major products that came from a state owned industry?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Cairenn</dc:creator>
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			<title>fromthewilderness  conspiracy site?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 23:21:57 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I haven't had time to investigate this, too much to catch up on after being off line for most of several days (I expected that, but the almost 12 hrs...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I haven't had time to investigate this, too much to catch up on after being off line for most of several days (I expected that, but the almost 12 hrs in the hospital was a surprise).<br />
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			<dc:creator>Cairenn</dc:creator>
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			<title>An excellent suggestion from a CTer!</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 05:43:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Sorry if this is an inappropriate topic or location for this comment, but I'm brand new here.  Just finishing off my day having been called a...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Sorry if this is an inappropriate topic or location for this comment, but I'm brand new here.  Just finishing off my day having been called a &quot;TROLL!!&quot; for posting sciencey stuff on a chemtrails site.  Here's their sarcastic suggestion and my perfectly honest reply:<br />
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&quot;I would start a group about Chemtrails being a psuedo science and inform the population of chemtrailers that we are ALL unscientific!!&quot;<br />
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&quot;It exists already. It is called the &quot;Scientific Community&quot;. Maybe you've heard of it?&quot;</div>

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			<title>Why do people believe?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:05:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've often stated that to disabuse people of conspiracies one has to understand why they believe in them. The Salon.com article that follows offers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've often stated that to disabuse people of conspiracies one has to understand why they believe in them. The Salon.com article that follows offers interesting insights that I believe need to be taken into consideration when reasoning with CT'ers.<br />
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We&#8217;ve written before about the historical and social aspects of conspiracy theories, but wanted to learn more about the psychology of people who believe, for instance, that the Boston Marathon bombing was a government &#8220;false flag&#8221; operation. Psychological forces like motivated reasoning have long been associated with conspiracy thinking, but scientists are learning more every year. For instance, a British study published last year found that people who believe one conspiracy theory are prone to believe many, even ones that are completely contradictory.<br />
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Professor Stephan Lewandowsky, a cognitive scientist at the University of Western Australia, published a paper late last month in the journal Psychological Science that has received widespread praise for looking at the thinking behind conspiracy theories about science and climate change. We asked him to explain the psychology of conspiracy theories. This conversation has been edited for brevity and clarity.<br />
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First of all, why do people believe conspiracy theories?<br />
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There are number of factors, but probably one of the most important ones in this instance is that, paradoxically, it gives people a sense of control. People hate randomness, they dread the sort of random occurrences that can destroy their lives, so as a mechanism against that dread, it turns out that it&#8217;s much easier to believe in a conspiracy. Then you have someone to blame, it&#8217;s not just randomness.<br />
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What are the psychological forces at play in conspiracy thinking?<br />
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Basically what&#8217;s happening in any conspiracy theory is that people have a need or a motivation to believe in this theory, and it&#8217;s psychologically different from evidence-based thinking. A conspiracy theory is immune to evidence, and that can pretty well serve as the definition of one. If you reject evidence, or reinterpret the evidence to be confirmation of your theory, or you ignore mountains of evidence to focus on just one thing, you&#8217;re probably a conspiracy theorist. We call that a self-sealing nature of reasoning.<br />
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<b>Another common trait is the need to constantly expand the conspiracy as new evidence comes to light. For instance, with the so-called Climategate scandal, there were something like nine different investigations, all of which have exonerated the scientists involved. But the response from the people who held this notion was to say that all of those investigations were a whitewash. So it started with the scientists being corrupt and now not only is it them, but it&#8217;s also all the major scientific organizations of the world that investigated them and the governments of the U.S. and the U.K., etc., etc. And that&#8217;s typical &#8212; instead of accepting the evidence, you actually turn it around and say that it&#8217;s actually evidence to support the conspiracy because it just means it&#8217;s even broader than it was originally thought to be.</b><br />
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Are there certain types of people who are more prone to believing in conspiracy theories than others? Does it match any kind of political lines?<br />
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I don&#8217;t think there is a systematic association between political views and the propensity to believe in conspiracy theories. There are some studies that suggest people on the political left are inclined to it, and there are some that suggest people on the right are. But it&#8217;s always a weak association. There are some theories that appeal to only one side, however. <b>For example, the idea that 9/11 was an inside job was fairly common among Democrats in the early part of the 2000s, and very few Republicans believed it at the time. But conversely, the idea that the U.N. is trying to create a world government is predominantly held by people on the right, but not at all by people on the political left. So it really doesn&#8217;t depend on politics.</b><br />
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Everyone is prone to some degree of bias and motivated reasoning &#8212; where do you draw the line, if there is one?<br />
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<b>The crucial difference between having a preconceived notion &#8212; we all do that, of course &#8212; and conspiratorial thinking is when you get into that self-sealing reasoning and ignore every piece of evidence that is pointing the other way, when you&#8217;re starting to broaden the circle of conspirators, and when your skepticism gets to be nihilistic &#8212; when you believe absolutely nothing that the government or the media is saying &#8212; that&#8217;s when you&#8217;ve crossed the line.</b><br />
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I hear a lot of stories from people who email or from friends who have a brother, or cousin, or friend who they say is normal and smart, but then they&#8217;re horrified to find conspiratorial stuff on their Facebook page or whatnot. One was even a medical student at a very prestigious school. How do otherwise smart and reasonable people end up believing this stuff?<br />
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<b>Well, there is no relationship to intelligence, in my experience. Many of these people are actually quite smart, though not all, so it&#8217;s not that. It&#8217;s the need to explain and control, as I said, but it can be other things also: A general sense of disgruntlement, feeling excluded from society. Feeling discriminated against. Even insecurity in one&#8217;s job.<br />
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And it&#8217;s often with good reason. For instance, the conspiracy theory that AIDS was created by the U.S. government is held disproportionately by African-Americans. In a sense, there is good reason to have that suspicion, since it wasn&#8217;t that long ago that, in the 1950s or even later, that the U.S. government was sterilizing African-Americans and doing all sorts of horrible things to them without their consent. So some conspiracy theories have a grain of historical truth in them &#8212; that&#8217;s not to say the theories are true, but the conditions that give rise to them are.</b><br />
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How should we think of conspiracy theorists? They&#8217;re often dismissed as fringey nuts, but an awful lot of Americans believe in one conspiracy or another.<br />
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First of all, any extraordinary event will be followed by conspiracy theorizing. I can tell you that right now. Whatever happens tomorrow, there will be a conspiracy theory about it. Number two, I think it&#8217;s important that we understand that it satisfies a need. It isn&#8217;t that these people are necessarily disordered or marginal members of society. After all, not that long ago, half of Republican primary voters thought President Obama was born outside the U.S. So, if half of one segment of a population believes in a conspiracy theory then you can&#8217;t talk about marginal elements and you have to accept that it&#8217;s a real part of society and serves a need. And I think we have to understand that need and find ways for society to find other ways in which that need can be satisfied.<br />
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Alex Seitz-Wald is Salon's political reporter. 
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