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			<title>Contrails and Thunderstorms</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:29:02 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>This is the topic for discussion of contrail effects on thunderstorms and other similar phenomena. 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>This is the topic for discussion of contrail effects on thunderstorms and other similar phenomena.<br />
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The most important thing is that thunderstorm anvils create vast amounts of cirriform clouds, which can be a favourable region for persistent contrail formation. That's why some people tell something like &quot;they spray before storms&quot;.<br />
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An interesting example. 8 June 2013 was quite a stormy day in Europe, and Moldova was affected too. Cb tops reached the altitude of 12 km, forming dense cirrus. The satellite image and the photos prove it.<br />
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Inverse relationship: Cirrus and Altostratus clouds can be a sign of warm air advection in upper troposphere. It can act like a stable layer, weakening new Cumulus congestus and Cumulonimbus clouds and even suppressing storm development.</div>


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			<dc:creator>CbIncus</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Scientific paper stating airborne barium releases 'responsible' for human illness]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 23:42:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Not only 'responsible', but gives the chemical analysis of exactly HOW it is responsible: 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Not only 'responsible', but gives the chemical analysis of exactly HOW it is responsible:<br />
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Sounds like inside information to me. Open for discussion.</div>

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			<dc:creator>deejay</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[I'm sure this has been debunked, but I can't find it [KC-10 Aerodynamic contrails]]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 16:11:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[This video:  
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Also, any links to information or discussions on "chem busters"...]]></description>
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Is it just contrails?<br />
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Also, any links to information or discussions on &quot;chem busters&quot; would be appreciated.</div>

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			<dc:creator>i_dont_know_enough</dc:creator>
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			<title>Chemtrail logistics: How many NWO black-ops people are required?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:50:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I don't really follow the whole Chemtrailn thing, as I regard it implausible on many levels, and after watching "Some Grey Bloke's" brilliant...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I don't really follow the whole Chemtrailn thing, as I regard it implausible on many levels, and after watching &quot;Some Grey Bloke's&quot; brilliant argument on Youtube illustrating the problems with the theory, I dismissed it as there is only so much space in my tiny brain for such things.<br />
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However, I signed up to a page on Facebook called &quot;Conspiracy theorists say the darndest things&quot;, which I recommend, but too many of the quotes are about Chemtrails to ignore them.<br />
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So, using logic and known logistical parameters, and as Im attached to an RAF unit here with access to lots of Aircrew and Groundcrew, as well as being located on a very active airfield, Im wondering if anyone here can work out the total number of conspirators required to execute this plan.<br />
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1.  How many people are required to manufacture the chemicals?<br />
2.  How many people are required to transport them to the planes?<br />
3.  Do the planes leave Boeing Field or Toulouse with the spraying equipment fitted, or are the planes retrofitted?<br />
4.  Who and how many people load the chemicals in the planes?<br />
5.  Are all the planes military, or are Airliners used unwittingly?<br />
6.  Is this a worldwide event with the Conspirators having enough influence to spray over every country?<br />
7.  How many people in the CAA, FAA, and EPA are required to cover it up?<br />
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I have about 32 hrs in light aircraft, with the odd jolly in a military plane, so am no aviation expert by any stretch, but I have seen a few people posting on Metabunk who are, so would welcome any other logistic problems I am unaware of.<br />
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The purpose of this is not to ridicule Chemtrailers, but to provoke thought into the practical realities of such a plan.</div>

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			<title>Someone please explain these contrail anomalies.</title>
			<link>http://metabunk.org/threads/1776-Someone-please-explain-these-contrail-anomalies?goto=newpost</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:42:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Please explain why there is no apparent vapor gap between these trails and the engines. Also why stuff is coming out of the fuselage on some of these...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Please explain why there is no apparent vapor gap between these trails and the engines. Also why stuff is coming out of the fuselage on some of these planes...? Fuel dumping usually occurs from the wings of airliners. Maybe it's a different model. I'd like to know exactly what were dealing with before someone calls it fuel dumping - ie what type of plane it is, and where the fuel is dumped from on that type of plane.<br />
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<a href="http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2013/06/06/contrail-science/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2013/06/...trail-science/</a><br />
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			<dc:creator>Conspira911</dc:creator>
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			<title>please someone debunk this crap</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:41:56 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi, I am friends with several people who are driving me nuts posting stuff on facebook about chemtrails. this is the latest:...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi, I am friends with several people who are driving me nuts posting stuff on facebook about chemtrails. this is the latest: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8</a> <br />
has anyone got any beef on this please? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8</a> and thank you so much for your informative website.</div>

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			<dc:creator>zita</dc:creator>
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			<title>asperatus clouds</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2013 06:17:27 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Someone posted a picture on my wall of some asperatus clouds.  Since I wasn't familiar  with them I went looking for more information and I stumbled...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Someone posted a picture on my wall of some asperatus clouds.  Since I wasn't familiar  with them I went looking for more information and I stumbled on this site  (it is neat)<br />
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<a href="http://cloudappreciationsociety.org/asperatus-update/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://cloudappreciationsociety.org/asperatus-update/</a><br />
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I was reading the comments there and sure enough the CTers show up.  One person mentioned seeing them for years in New England<br />
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dave – 9 Nov 2011<br />
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ohhh….for sure, asperatus clouds are great…..you mean HAARP clouds?<br />
you think it’s great that our leaders are dumping chem trails over us in the sky?<br />
poisoning us with harmful chemicals that they drop from planes to interrupt natural weather patterns?<br />
you think it’s great that they cover up their senseless, cold blooded acts with little fluffy good meaning terms like “asperatus clouds?”<br />
we’re not little kids who can believe this and believe me, they’re not getting away with this, these pigs are going to get what they’re giving three fold, and I’m going to laugh when it’s going down<br />
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Honza – 12 Jan 2012<br />
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oh come on dave, you watch too much of X-Files… Consipration everywhere… can’t you just stop, take a deep breath, take a look above and enjoy what nature offers?<br />
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spencer – 18 Feb 2012<br />
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is this connected to the electro magnetic field being pulled? NASA put out info about it in 2009 around the same time this started happining<br />
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Bonnie Mitchell – 22 Oct 2012<br />
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When you do the research on chemtrails, HAARP, and Geoengineering, you will most likely come to the same conclusion that many of us have: the government is conducting their “secret” projects as they have always done and we the people are their test subjects. When government scientists say “Oh, yeah, we might conduct spray operations in the future to ‘stop Global Warming’ with Geoengineering, but we’re not doing it yet,” they are lying.<br />
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Brand new cloud formations never seen before? WHY? Has anyone figured that out yet? If you have been standing underneath a sky of “Asperatus clouds” you might just feel the creepiness closing in on you. This is NOT natural. Wake up people, before it is too late. Stop going along with everything the government tells you and try thinking for yourself. All you have to do is take some time to research this for yourself and you will be shocked.<br />
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phillip wise – 10 Jan 2013<br />
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i have some photos of so called asperatus clouds that i took a week ago ..would you like me to send them to you ?<br />
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Sheila – 8 Feb 2013<br />
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Some of these clouds are pretty like Scotland but the one in New Zealand looks wicked scary!<br />
I question some of this and open to look at HAARP. Wouldn’t ignore the possibility
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			<dc:creator>Cairenn</dc:creator>
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			<title>Global Skywatch: Sampling Chemtrails In the Sky with Swiss Filmmaker Matthias Hancke</title>
			<link>http://metabunk.org/threads/1752-Global-Skywatch-Sampling-Chemtrails-In-the-Sky-with-Swiss-Filmmaker-Matthias-Hancke?goto=newpost</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2013 01:44:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[If anyone has time to attend next Monday, Global Skywatch's live phone/online meeting (http://globalskywatch.com/live/#.UbPaiJyaRNs) is featuring a...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>If anyone has time to attend next Monday, <a href="http://globalskywatch.com/live/#.UbPaiJyaRNs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Global Skywatch's live phone/online meeting</a> is featuring a guest who claims to have sampled directly from trails, with &quot;interesting results.&quot;<br />
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<b>Date:</b> Monday June 10th, 2013,  			  	8:30 pm Eastern, 5:30 pm Pacific, 12:30 am London Time<br />
					<b>Phone #:</b> 559-726-1300 Access Code: 156230<br />
					<b>Agenda:</b> <a href="http://globalskywatch.com/live/agenda.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Agenda</a><br />
					<b>Watch Live:</b> <a href="http://globalskywatch.com/live/live.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Link to Live Stream<br />
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 			  <b>Matthias Hancke</b>  is a filmmaker who has searched for the truth about geoengineering. His  team has sampled chemtrail plumes in the air and had some very  interesting results.<br />
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 			  <b>About Our Guest</b><br />
 			  Matthias Hancke was born in January 1980  in Brig Switzerland and lived from 1997 till 1998 in the USA, in  Northville, MI. He studied History, Media Science and Anthropology  focusing on moviemaking at the University of Bern.<br />
 			  From 2009 on he has worked on his first  professional movie OVERCAST. In 2010 he won an award for his short movie  “Unknown”. Particular interests: Film, documentaries, persistent  contrails, climate science, the weather, cirrus clouds, music, art,  philosophy, investigative journalism, music, tennis,  skiing/snowboarding, walking in the mountains, spirituality and nature.
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Interesting that his interest include &quot;persistent contrails&quot; - makes him somewhat unorthodox in circles where a common claim is that there is no such thing.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Belfrey</dc:creator>
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			<title>Debunked: Geoengineering Terminated Worldwide at Worldwide Geoengineering Conference</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:39:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>The following fake story claims that world governments have agreed to halt their ongoing geoengineering programs: 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>The following fake story claims that world governments have agreed to halt their ongoing geoengineering programs:<br />
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<a href="http://intellihub.com/2013/06/05/geoengineering-terminated-worldwide/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://intellihub.com/2013/06/05/geo...ted-worldwide/</a><br />
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After having listened to the scientists and examined the research on the destruction that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_modification" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Weather Modification</a> causes, governments are ready to follow the 2010 <a href="http://intellihub.com/2013/06/05/geoengineering-terminated-worldwide/Geoengineering%20Moratorium%20at%20UN%20Ministerial%20in%20Japan" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">United Nations Ban on Geoengineering</a> and have agreed to terminate Geoengineering Programs worldwide. The U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Science and Technology report: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/pdfs/Geongineeringreport.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Engineering the Climate: Research Needs and Strategies for International Coordination</a>, chaired by Bart Gordon in October 2010 was discussed in the globally broadcast premier of the Worldwide Geoengineering Conference.
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The main point here is that the Worldwide Geoengineering Conference is fictional. As individuals inhabiting this Earth, we are in control of what we demand control of. Our food, weather, governments and politicians are not autonomous unless we neglect our responcibility to be part of what goes on in our world.<br />
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This article is employing a literary device to show that in order to realize what the title is claiming; namely, Geoengineering Terminated Worldwide, each one of us must become involved to make this a reality. It is important to realize that had the title been phrased in any other way, the attention of the reader would probably be lost.
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The problem with fake stories, as seen by The Onion, is that people often think they are real. Many people don't read past the headline, or the first paragraph. The text is a little dense with lots of links and scientific words, so 90% of readers are not going to make it to the admission of fakery. Even if they get that far, they might still not even realize it's a fake, as it's phrased rather vaguely. <br />
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Even with the admissions of fakery, the article is still grossly inaccurate, confusing weather modification (normal cloud seeding) with geoengineering, and claiming geoengineering is ongoing. Cloud seeding is just spraying very small amounts of silver-iodide into clouds to make them rain a bit more. There's no evidence at all of any active geoengineering projects that involve spraying things out of planes.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
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			<title>Debunked: Who In The World Is Spraying</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2013 19:24:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[The third installment in the "W ... is Spraying?" is in production. Basically it's the latest incarnation of the "chemtrail" conspiracy theory.  
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<a href="http://www.whointheworldisspraying.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.whointheworldisspraying.com/</a><br />
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Judging by the above image, they are pushing the following narrative:<div style="margin-left:40px"><i><br />
Shadowy figures are orchestrating a clandestine spraying program using military and civillian jets to control the weather and the food supply so they can make money from weather derivatives, and control and reduce the world population. The jets also do something to the atmosphere to improve global surveillance, HAARP warfare, and mind control. The &quot;who&quot; are the bankster elite. </i></div><br />
The problem with this they is quite simple: there is NO EVIDENCE that anyone is spraying anything.<br />
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The producers put forward basically two bits of evidence - that the trails look odd, and that chemical tests reveal chemicals. <br />
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The problem is that these claims have been soundly refuted years ago. The trails look like normal contrails, and the tests just show normal levels of environmental chemicals like aluminium (which is 10% of the soil in California, home of the filmmakers). <br />
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See:<br />
<a href="http://contrailscience.com/what-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/" target="_blank">http://contrailscience.com/what-in-t...they-spraying/</a><br />
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<a href="http://metabunk.org/threads/300-Debunked-WHY-in-the-World-are-They-Spraying" target="_blank">http://metabunk.org/threads/300-Debu...-They-Spraying</a><br />
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So with this lack of &quot;evidence&quot;, all they are left is speculation about what weather control would look like, but with nothing to actually suggest it's going on. Oh, and a request for money.</div>

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			<description><![CDATA[Carnicom's article "Contradictions": http://www.carnicominstitute.org/articles/contra1.htm is about a case of "chemtrail spraying" above Santa Fe,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Carnicom's article &quot;Contradictions&quot;: <a href="http://www.carnicominstitute.org/articles/contra1.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.carnicominstitute.org/articles/contra1.htm</a> is about a case of &quot;chemtrail spraying&quot; above Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA. It states that<br />
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Clear blue sky early hours of the morning. Introduce heavy aircraft spray activity during morning hours, resulting in subsequent classic formation of extensive cirrus - cirrostratus - and cirrocumulus 'appearing' cloud decks. The now expected, formerly unusual, ring aroung the sun also developed, due to microscopic hexagonal crystals of uniform size existing in the atmosphere, the appearance of which also was directly<br />
associated with aircraft activity.<br />
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In Albuquerque, at flight level, immediately visible to the south:<br />
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Relative humidity at 35,000ft. MSL at 0500 (5am) 32%<br />
Relative humidity at 35,000ft. MSL at 1700 (5pm) 41%<br />
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Relative humidity interpolated at 1030 observation time is 36%.<br />
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U.S. Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey CA and Vincent Schaefer, inventor of cloud seeding in 1946, both affirm that cloud formation is not expected to even begin below relative humidities of 70%. That case itself is considered unusual, exemplified with the introduction of hygroscopic nuclei, such as salts in the atmosphere along the coast. Persistent contrails stated by numerous sources to have the potential to exist only in conditions of near saturation to saturation.
			
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</div>These numbers are correct, but the are two questions:<br />
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1. What are real atm. conditions at 10:30 LT? They can change a lot between radiosonde launches.<br />
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2. The accuracy of radiosonde data is also questionable: <a href="http://metabunk.org/threads/758-Accuracy-of-Radiosonde-humidity-soundings-for-contrail-prediction" target="_blank">http://metabunk.org/threads/758-Accu...ail-prediction</a>.<br />
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There's a way to answer thq questons using NCEP/NCAR Reanalysis-2 data, which also ingests satellite measurements: <a href="http://nomad3.ncep.noaa.gov/ncep_data/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://nomad3.ncep.noaa.gov/ncep_data/</a> and <a href="http://nomad3.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/reanalysis-2/6hr/pgb/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://nomad3.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/reanalysis-2/6hr/pgb/</a>. I've downloaded the pgb.200007 file for July 20th RH data, processed it with GrADS and converted RH to RHi using Goff-Gratch equations. The result is the following map:<br />
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We see a region above Santa Fe which is very close to ice saturation. So there's no contradiction.</div>


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			<title>Is geoengineering occuring?</title>
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I'm in the process of sorting out another &quot;chemtrails are geoengineering&quot; argument and i want to tell this guy geoengineering is not occurring despite the existence of patents for geoengineering.<br />
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I know i've read on this forum that geoengineering is not occurring, it's even <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFmFwgOZWpY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">in a video by Mick</a>. But then on the <a href="http://contrailscience.com/debunked-kmir6-geoegnineering-skies-chemtrails/" target="_blank">Debunked: KMIR6 Geoengineering the Skies (chemtrails)</a> page, one of the links <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoengineering" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">goes to WikiPedia</a> were it says &quot;Field research into sulfur aerosols has also started.&quot;<br />
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Can i get a clarification?<br />
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Thanks,<br />
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			<description>The use of chemtrails is for the designed purpose of destroying the immune system of the individuals whom the chemtrails descend upon. This is part...</description>
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			<title>MITRE and chemtrails?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[There's a claim made on a YT video that "Planes are not allowed off course without permission from MITRE. " - the video itself is a rambling load of...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>There's a claim made on a YT video that &quot;Planes are not allowed off course without permission from MITRE. &quot; - the video itself is a rambling load of nonsense - I'm not going to post it - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=2MlojiKYY6w" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here's the link </a>if you want to see it - the interesting bits are actually in the written commentary accompanying it.<br />
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So who or what is MITRE?  It is Mitre Corporation - which, according to it's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitre_Corporation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Wiki page </a> is:<br />
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....an American not-for-profit organization based in Bedford, Massachusetts and McLean, Virginia. It manages Federally Funded Research and Development Centers (FFRDCs) supporting the Department of Defense (DOD), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts on behalf of the Federal Judiciary, and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).
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It developed the FAA's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Airspace_System" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">National Aerospace System (NAS)</a> - which is presumably why the claim is made.<br />
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Of course this then shows ignorance about how air traffic control works - the NAS is an immensely complicated system.........but the system itself is not what approves course changes - that would be the controllers.<br />
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To say that MITRE has to approve course changes is the equivalent to saying that Microsoft or Apple approves every document you create using their products - it is just nonsense and demonstrates ignorance of the subject matter.</div>

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			<title>The Kopp-Etchells Effect (Helicopter Light Scintillation Halo)</title>
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Or is it just friction?...]]></description>
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Or is it just friction? Friction creating heat, just like an engine. I don't know, but I know airplane wings don't get hot. I'm just guessing here. It's not static. Static looks like the pic.<br />
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Static from a rotor wing is really colorful and pretty and I can't believe there aren't better pictures than this popping up on google images. I had a job in the army that had me standing under helicopters that were hovering so low I could touch them (they were that low so I could touch them), but I never took pictures.<br />
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How's my science sound, Mick?</div>


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