Diamond Shaped Object Over Eglin

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Source: https://twitter.com/anthroaerospace/status/1785699760021672124

All black but had a greyish tan patch on the top. Saw it at eglin
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This thing was flying way out of florida into the ocean with a c-130 tanker following. Idk where it went
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Its almsot the size of a c-130 so no but i have no clue. I took the pic too so not like i can trace it back with reverse search
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I took these pictures lmfao its the same [aircraft]
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It was moving with the c-130 (however fast that exactly is) then swooped away out into the sky over the gulf of mexico
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Lol kites dont have a visible afterburner plume though XD
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[the wings] were slanted inwards like the blackbird
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[noise it made] Really deep screeching, loud too. Almost like a b-1 and a thunderscreech mixed
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The two shapes look rather different, but that might be lighting or exposure.
 
SOF week is also coming up and this is exactly where everyone would be pre-testing their fancy toys to show off. Definitely some possibilities leaning that way.
 
yandex shows these

add a really low quality phone and filters..i could see getting that shape
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in the video sometimes you see the guns and sometimes not, after burner and they have a cockpit/canopy

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Lol kites dont have a visible afterburner plume though XD
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No, but they do often have visible tails. And particularly the first image in the Twitter post (second image further down in Mick's post) looks a lot like a delta kite of some sort. Not conclusively, but if the story matched kite behavior better I'd find that a credible answer. Something like this, but with less tail -- deltas don't usually NEED tails to fly, but can be attached for aesthetics...
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There are a zillion different deltas out there, store-bought and home-made

Of course, if it really flew out to sea with a C-130, that rules out a kite without even considering afterburners/tails. So provisionally I'll say this is not one of mine, but will toss this into the thread in case the story of flying along with a C-130 or otherwise doing stuff kites can't do comes into question.
 
Mick West said:

Source: https://twitter.com/anthroaerospace/status/1785699760021672124

All black but had a greyish tan patch on the top. Saw it at eglin
...
This thing was flying way out of florida into the ocean with a c-130 tanker following. Idk where it went
...
Its almsot the size of a c-130 so no but i have no clue. I took the pic too so not like i can trace it back with reverse search
...
I took these pictures lmfao its the same [aircraft]
...
It was moving with the c-130 (however fast that exactly is) then swooped away out into the sky over the gulf of mexico
...
Lol kites dont have a visible afterburner plume though XD
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[the wings] were slanted inwards like the blackbird
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[noise it made] Really deep screeching, loud too. Almost like a b-1 and a thunderscreech mixed
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The two shapes look rather different, but that might be lighting or exposure.
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Looks somewhat like the PRC's FL-17 drone.

For example, the FL-71 platform depicts a high-speed unmanned aircraft designed for a maximum takeoff weight of three tons, designed for maximum speed of 2,200 km/h (Mach 1.8) at 50,000 ft or high subsonic cruising at 850 km/h. (0.71 Mach) at 30,000 ft, which enables the drone to carry a payload of 100 kg over 800 km on a single mission lasting about one hour, with a mission profile that could include a short supersonic dash.
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https://defense-update.com/20181109_new-drones-dominate-chinas-zhuhai-airshow.html#google_vignette
 
Mick West said:
All black but had a greyish tan patch on the top. Saw it at eglin

[the wings] were slanted inwards like the blackbird
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(Mick West quoting Twitter / "X" user Anthro Aerospace).

Maybe the photographer got to see more than the pictures suggest (if our pictures are of the underside of an aircraft), if they got an impression of the colour on the topside.

I wonder if "[the wings] were slanted inwards" is actually meant to be a reference to tailplanes, not wings?
We (well, I) can't see any obvious tailplane surfaces in the 2 OP photos, though.
The SR-71 Blackbird's tailplanes are canted inwards.

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deirdre said:
yandex shows these
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Images are from You Tube user Valeriu Morar's video titled "Mflex - The Light", uploaded c. 2019

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prJ4odfplNk


The Delta-wing fighters in the video (and deirdre's captures) are Dassault Mirage 2000 jets, I think.
Used by France (where they're from), India, UAE, Taiwan, Greece and others.
In service since 1984.

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(French, Greek Mirages).
Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Mirage_2000

To be honest, I'd be surprised if these are the shapes in the OP photos.


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The delta-wings in the video certainly aren't F-5 Tiger IIs, an earlier American aircraft which was widely exported.
300px-J-3005.jpg Swiss F-5.
Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_F-5
 
presumably they mean a KC-130 tanker? Do we have a date/time maybe we can track the tanker on ADSB Exchange.
SuppaCoup said:
I'm confused that this is all we get, no video of it and the accompanying aircraft? just two zoomed pics?
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Original images. exact location and date and time are probably going to be needed.

Given the story sounds a bit embellished and the shape is slightly different.
 
Yup live photo is indicated by the metadata screenshot.

Just share the HEIF, emojiis and dramatic statements rather than just "here's a link to the dropbox of the original files" is more signs that it's a hoax attempt.
 
11:03am is 15:03 GMT. There was a lot of military traffic over Eglin and the surrounding area, but I don't see any C130s. There was a KC-135 out to see, and two F-5s (the purple ones).

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The only one that doesn't have a type designation on ADSB Exchange seems to be this one, TUNDRA2:

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According to this list of callsigns, TUNDRA is associated with "T-6 559th FTS RANDOLPH AFB TX", i.e. the 559th Flying Training Squadron. They use T-6 Texan IIs which are rather boring looking turboprops, so it's not that!

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Neither is it the Hawk nearby, reg 167098:
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Going through the twitter replies of Anthro Aerospace which seems to be the source for all these, it looks like this is either an inside joke that got out of hand (that turned into a trolling session) or just a hoax from the start.
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At the end she claims the photos are real, so maybe we'll get an update on what they are (or maybe it's just more trolling and the photos are not real).



Source: https://twitter.com/anthroaerospace/status/1785928870450925964




Source: https://twitter.com/anthroaerospace/status/1785912023097758143
 
Calter said:
Going through the twitter replies of Anthro Aerospace which seems to be the source for all these, it looks like this is either an inside joke that got out of hand (that turned into a trolling session) or just a hoax from the start.
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So that seems to toss the story of flying out to sea into the trash, or at least into doubt. Maybe this IS one of mine after all! OK, I'll see if I can find a best match...
 
Aww, just realised I was genuinely hoping this was a giant UAV or (preferably) some revolutionary crewed aircraft.
 
Calter said:
Going through the twitter replies of Anthro Aerospace which seems to be the source for all these, it looks like this is either an inside joke that got out of hand (that turned into a trolling session) or just a hoax from the start.
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At the end she claims the photos are real, so maybe we'll get an update on what they are (or maybe it's just more trolling and the photos are not real).



Source: https://twitter.com/anthroaerospace/status/1785928870450925964




Source: https://twitter.com/anthroaerospace/status/1785912023097758143
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You said "at the end, she claims the photos real." It looks like X post she made about people getting mad because they thought it was real at first was made today at 3:06 am, while the post about the photos being real, just won't be what anyone's expecting was made at 1:59 am today. Doesn't that mean the former was posted after the latter? If so, doesn't that mean at the end, she admitted it was fake?

Edit--Corrected time to 1:59 above.
 
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You are right, it's not at the end that she claims that the pictures are real (since she made more comments about the situation after it), my bad.


She claimed that the photos were real after saying it was just a troll/inside joke and that she enjoyed seeing people pretend they know what it is when they don't, so while it could be that she was still trolling when she said it, I'd say that she holds that the photos are real (they aren't fabricated or from a game), she is just saying that the event itself is fabricated (these aren't photos of some mysterious flying object that she wanted someone to identify).
 
Calter said:
You are right, it's not at the end that she claims that the pictures are real (since she made more comments about the situation after it), my bad.


She claimed that the photos were real after saying it was just a troll/inside joke and that she enjoyed seeing people pretend they know what it is when they don't, so while it could be that she was still trolling when she said it, I'd say that she holds that the photos are real (they aren't fabricated or from a game), she is just saying that the event itself is fabricated (these aren't photos of some mysterious flying object that she wanted someone to identify).
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Scrolling the original poster's timeline, I'm wondering how anyone thought she was beyond pranking.
 
In addition to a delta kite (suggested HERE), I wonder if it might be one of these Magnus Effect kites that get their lift by spinning in the wind. There are commercial versions, but a homemade kite like these might be the best match. It spins on a lateral axis, which might explain the shift in the shape between the two images, one rotated to a different extent than the next.

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IF (not ready to make that claim yet but it seems possible...) it were one of these, the "afterburner" would probably not be a tail, but might be a glimpse of the flying string catching the light. The fact that they are often called "UFO Kites" might have suggested something to the mind of a potential hoaxster...
 
JMartJr said:
it were one of these, the "afterburner" would probably not be a tail, but might be a glimpse of the flying string catching the light.
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i think he photoshopped those in (using photoshopped here in the sense of any filter/manipulation)
 
I think both Deirdre's garbage bag and JMartJr's Magnus Effect kites are both good candidates.Viewing the original photos again though, I think they could be homemade or shop bought stickers on a window.
 
deirdre said:
i think he photoshopped those in (using photoshopped here in the sense of any filter/manipulation)
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Possibly, accidentally catching a bit of the string just seemed simpler -- the Lazyology Principle holds that usually the process that might create a hoax image which requires the least effort is probably the one used!

Don't want to get too far out over my skis though, still possible it is not so much a hoax as a "this fooled me will it fool the rest of you" thing...
 
Never heard of Cheez-Its. To my surprise, my spell-checker has, so I guess they're well-known.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheez-It

Each "cracker" is approx. 24 x 26 mm (just under 1'' by just over 1'').

Hard to see how one Cheez-It by itself could account for the second photo (I'm guessing they're quite brittle and crumbly, so difficult to shape),
Capture2.JPG ...and of course I'm concerned that Cheez-Its might be leaving contrails; something should be done.


I guess it's clear that this is a not-very-complex hoax (and perhaps not intended to be taken seriously for any length of time).
Not particularly interested in what Anthro Aerospace used anymore; I'm guessing many members here could do better with little effort.


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what a goofy little hoax! oh well. cheez-its are an excellent snack food, any of you that have never sampled them should give them a go, not something you'd want to eat all the time but a lovely addition to watching a film.
 
Doesn't look like the classic Cheez-It, but they have a few different varieties. Like this one kinda looks it could be a closer match.
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But perhaps just as likely that the twitter OP is still trolling and hoping that someone spray paints a Cheez-It black to prove them wrong.
 
Tricky to follow this thread with all these deleted twitter things. Oh well, never mind, carry on.
 
After reading all this I'm not sure I understand.

Some guy was playing a hoax on his coworkers by taking a picture of a cheezit he painted black?
The photo accidentally went viral?
Any legit confirmation of this story?
 
She just set her twitter to private, I imagine to let things cool down a bit since people were getting very worked up about it. I assume eventually she'll set it back to public and the twitter links will be back up.

Either way, the whole thing went something like this
  1. Twitter user posts the two pictures (shown at the start of the thread) and asks if someone can ID the plane
  2. This gets picked up by someone and spread around
  3. People start asking questions to the OP and OP just gives vague answers and denies many guesses (she also posted one more image as if the craft had popped up again the next day)
  4. Eventually OP starts making it more and more clear that it was just an inside joke and she just went with it and trolled for a while (these can be seen in post #15 as I took screenshots)
    1. Calter said:
      Going through the twitter replies of Anthro Aerospace which seems to be the source for all these, it looks like this is either an inside joke that got out of hand (that turned into a trolling session) or just a hoax from the start.
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  5. She then said a couple of times that it's absurd people were getting so worked up about a "cheezit painted black", implying that what we are seeing are just images of a cheezit painted black
  6. I'm not sure if there was a specific event that made her go private, but as far as I saw she was getting harassed by some people that didn't like getting tricked so it's probably just to lay low for a while and let the whole thing blow over.
 
Calter said:
She then said a couple of times that it's absurd people were getting so worked up about a "cheezit painted black", implying that what we are seeing are just images of a cheezit painted black
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It just doesn't look like a Cheezit painted black, which sounds like a silly thing to even think of. With just the quick reading of her quotes when they were up, I'd suggest the "Cheezit" comment is yet another vague "I'm not saying what I mean, but you know what I mean" type of thing. Her wording is full of slang, inside references and allusions to whatever it is she actually means.

So, I read "people getting worked up about a Cheezit painted black" as "people getting worked up by whatever nonsensical thing that kinda looks like a cheezit if someone had painted one black". She doesn't seem the type of person that would come right out and say "this was a kite".

Of course, her comment completely overlooks the fact that she posted this as an actual aircraft with a backstory about it flying off the coast of Florida with a C130 or KC135 and asked people to help identify it. And then said it flew over again. Then seems to have gotten upset when people took her seriously and then they got upset when she hinted it was a hoax, but still didn't explain herself.

She baited the trap, people took the bait and she more or less called them fools for taking the bait. Then couldn't understand why the people she made look foolish got upset? I'd be curious to see if she makes snarky or nasty comments on other people's X posts.

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NorCal Dave said:
Then couldn't understand why the people she made look foolish got upset?
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If she trolls people then she probably has the correct mentality of just disengaging with an online troll when they see one, so it's not that she was surprised that people were getting upset, but more so baffled that so many people were still going on about it even when it was clear she was just trolling. Not engaging or arguing with trolls is like internet 101. Also worth point out I'm pretty sure she's just a teenager, like 15 years old.

Last I saw, she was still trolling the people that were still engaging with her by responding with some copypasta, so it's possible that the cheezit comments were also just more trolling or a way to say it's just a nonsense blob that might as well be a cheezit painted black.

But doing some more digging, she seems to have a friend (also 15) that also talked about it just being a cheezit.

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Source: https://twitter.com/Aquav_cotton/status/1786049482418700405

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Source: https://twitter.com/Aquav_cotton/status/1786079372622921887


Aquav has called Anthro by her real name and is following Anthro's new account (in which she hasn't posted much about the event), so she's not just a random user but someone that has contact with Anthro.

So personally, I'm inclined to believe this is indeed a cheezits painted black (maybe with some extra props for the afterburner and whatnot), even if I'm not sure how the pictures were taken for that to be a cheezit.

I don't feel too comfortable stalking more random 15-year-old girl's twitters so I'm just going to stop my twitter digging there for now.
 
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Calter said:
Aquav has called Anthro by her real name and is following Anthro's new account (in which she hasn't posted much about the event), so she's not just a random user but someone that has contact with Anthro.
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how do you know AquaV isnt Anthro? you know these kids have a ton of sockpuppet accounts.

Calter said:
I don't feel too comfortable stalking more random 15-year-old girl's twitters
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Anthro is not really a girl..its a Furry account ie cos play.
but still super creepy [add:to stalk people], so yea i'd avoid this group altogether.
 
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deirdre said:
what makes you think it was his coworkers?


which story? the coworkers story? the cheezit story? the "it accidentally went viral" story?
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THAT'S WHY I USED QUESTION MARKS.

I was hoping someone could summerize this story for the slow ones like me.

Thank you Calter!! Beautifully explained.
 
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