so says TankerEnemy - I ran across this just now and am just speechless - it's not long - less than 3 minutes....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N304lzfVgN8
so says TankerEnemy - I ran across this just now and am just speechless - it's not long - less than 3 minutes....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N304lzfVgN8
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." -Pascal
"It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley; but not at all so to believe or not in God" - Diderot
Ha! I wanted to post this as a comment at YouTube:
"@marketsdata You are right. There is a lot of misinformation out there these days. And this video is a fine example.
He finds one photo (in long perspective) and claims the planes should be banked in the apparent tight turn. No. Sorry. I don't buy it. TE is going to have to do A LOT better than this."
but I am blocked by the owner of the video.
Last edited by Ross Marsden; April 20th, 2011 at 10:25 PM. Reason: clarification
Tankerenemy has issues. I called him on his "unmarked 747 'Chemtrail' plane" and was promptly blocked.
TankerEnemy unfortunately seems totally unable to back down, even when it's totally obvious he's made a mistake. He claims that my old weather books are fake, and that contrails can't possibly persists, so ANY evidence of persistent contrails is faked.
I suspect that the other chemtrailers think he's some kind of double-disinfo agent.
My life has included a lot of exposure to aircraft, because my father flew from 1943 training in biplanes through WWII in the B-24 Liberator, seaplanes in the late 1940's and up to 1971 including Bell helicopters. He loved flying so much that cheap entertainment for him was taking our family down to Love Field on hot summer evenings in Dallas to watch the 707's roar at takeoff. He flew through my childhood on weekends with the National Guard, and I remember wearing his helmet pretending to be a 'spaceman'. I never thought about the contrails at all, but have an early distinct memory of hearing and seeing a flight high flying B-36's out of Ft. Worth. These were the largest piston engine aircraft ever built and the sound was unique.
We did own part of a Cessna-172, which my father flew our family in, and he once smuggled me on one of his Texas Air National Guard Piper Cub "grasshopper" flights, and let me fly using the stick inserted in the back seat.
Here is a write up I did of his aviation service, including a set of photographs:
http://forum.armyairforces.com/In-Me...9-m172700.aspx
If tankerenemy showed up at a VFW hall telling his lies, he would be lucky to ecape a thrashing by some nonagenarian's walking stick.
I wonder how he's coping with MJM now???Originally Posted by Mick
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." -Pascal
"It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley; but not at all so to believe or not in God" - Diderot
I suspect that TankerEnemy ends up considering everyone a disinfo agent eventually.
I think you'll find tankerenemy does not believe in chemtrails at all. Rosario Marciano and brother Antonio Marciano run tankerenemy.com as a business, with paid advertising and donation revenue.
They are also youtube partners with google-adsense profit sharing which means they get paid money when people watch their videos.
Running a chemtrail scare for fun and profit as outlined by Jay suggsts they are highly unlikely to edit or retract their claims when confronted with contradictory evidence. It's not in their financial interest to admit error .
Tankerenemy relies on a number of individuals like youtube/user/skywitness to proselytise his videos such as the usaffekc10a's aerodynamic contrail footage in which Tankerenemy has labelled the flaptrack fairings as "nozzles".
Despite being sent detailed proof that the features are flap-actuator/track fairings, both tanker and skywitness maintain denial of them being fairings and adhere to "nozzles".
It's obvious from their occasionally witty discourse they could not seriously believe the fairings are actually nozzles so their insistence of an unsupportable nonsense indicates they are knowingly misrepresenting reality.
I'd suggest they are deliberate hoaxers and cast out a wide net, hoping to snare the more gullible members of the public to their scheme.
Interesting. I think it would be good to focus on the (relatively) undeniable "hoax" aspects to fill the cognitive hole that "chemtrails don't exit" leaves in the beliver's mind
Yes, I agree, and I'm starting to collect links to the various "chemtrail" products and donation schemes that are the financial snake-oil motivation for the hoax. "what in the world are they SELLING?"
Follow the money trail and a large part of motivational basis of the hoax is revealed.
Here's a typical post from tankerenemy minion Skywitness who constantly directs people to view tankerenemy videos and even today is trying to direct people to watch tankerenemy videos from the "killer chemtrails" video by nuffrespect.
Despite innumerable referrals to details about wing structure he/she maintains the "nozzle" dogma.
I don't think it's credible that this individual could really believe in "nozzles" and reject the existence of flap track fairings, so it suggests such reality denial is financially motivated...... Could he seriously be that deluded...despite years of being linked to verifiable aviation documentation?
Kudday Greg,
Here's one spotted on ebay for you along with a certified list of evil chems in the trails.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISA...m=320825216460
And here's another Greg. TBH I think I'll stick with gall stones rather than take the "cleanse"
There are also many products for sale, none of them cheap.
Sorry bout that.
This link was on a Chemtrail FB page, to help "cleanse the heavy metals being sprayed from your system"
http://www.drclark.net/en/index_en.php
I'm looking for a specific ref on her pages to chemtrails, just found a fair bit of quackery so far.
I'm always impressed by the audacity of claims that things like cancer are a recent result of metals with the implication they are the result of human technologies and metal extraction and utilisation.
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Illness, including cancer, is metal disease. We should fall out of love with metals.
Perhaps she should read some of the studies such as this: http://arxiv.org/abs/0704.1912 about the rates of bone cancer in dinosaurs.
http://discovermagazine.com/2003/nov/killer-cancer1102
Although with the incas building big stone walls apparently to keep dinosaurs out as suggested by Mr Jeff Green Bunkerbuster, then perhaps that point is moot?
Last edited by GregMc; January 16th, 2012 at 05:23 AM.
"Dr." Hulda Clark, who looks hale and hearty, if not beautiful in the link above, was unable to save herself from the ravages of time and disease.
She died several years ago of multiple myeloma (cancer).
http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...cer/clark.html
"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain
The link was posted on the FB page, Chemtrails Project, who are attempting to use science to prove chemtrails by testing rain samples. Unfortunately, they totally ignore the fact that dust blows about and is picked up by the rain on it's way to the sample jar.
The posting suggests a it as a way to get rid of all those nasty things that are being sprayed on us every day
Planes can turn with out tilting, it is called a rudder turn. For slow turns planes just use the rudder which swings the tail of the plane around until it is pointing in the desired direction. Banking(tilting) is done by using the ailerons on the wings to make sharper turns. The bombers did not always make contrails but when the humidity level was high enough they filled the sky with contrails.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSi6n4DA3UA
Tankerenemy blocks everybody that does not agree with his paranoid delusions!
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