Newsflash: Youtube videos are not official documents!
But also: of course UFO's are real - anything you see flying that you cannot identify is a UFO. Lots of governments say as much. That wasn't the question.....
Newsflash: Youtube videos are not official documents!
But also: of course UFO's are real - anything you see flying that you cannot identify is a UFO. Lots of governments say as much. That wasn't the question.....
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." -Pascal
"It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley; but not at all so to believe or not in God" - Diderot
Does anyone here know that Nero Caesar means Black Dictator/King in Italian? Does that mean that Obama is the Antichrist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3S05_OLnr8 < Check it out lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9wRryI_IyE < King Obama bypassing congress again
Obama talks about a jacket in the video.. Interestingly enough there is a movie called "The Jacket" about a man receiving a fatal head wound and LIVING. If you follow the prophecies in the Bible you know the Antichrist receives a fatal head wound and lives.
It's also funny Obama was sworn in using 2 bibles (MLK and A. Lincoln) of people who received fatal head wounds.
Conspiracies, conspiracies.. Obama did say the conspiracy theorist were right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diebTnIfku4 < There is the video..
Huh? So audio and video is not credible? I don't get it.. If I shoot someone and they release the video on Youtube can I say "no you can't use that on me, it's not credible since it's on youtube". I don't get it.Originally Posted by Cairenn
@Pete Tar
LOLOLOLOL.. you have a sense of humor. That is good.
What was asked for was some sort of governmental acknowledgement that extraterrestrial craft or aliens exist.
Neither of the videos you've linked to have do that.
The first is a news item acknowledging that the Mexican air-force spotted some UFOs. They didn't know what they were seeing. The argument used by the UFO-believer they interview is that other nations around the world are kowtowing to the USA's desire to keep things covered-up, and that the Mexican government (and others) would *love* to acknowledge the reality of extraterrestrial visitations on Earth. But that argument is weak. Why would any country go along with that? The USA's allies might, at a pinch, but countries like Russia? China? What motivation would they have to play along with the USA? Supposedly the theory is that disclosure would result in some sort of worldwide freak-out. I actually suspect most people would just think, 'wow, that's interesting, the UFO nuts were right all along', and get on with their lives.
Anyway, after the event, another researcher discovered that the UFOs in question were most likely gas flares...
http://www.alcione.org/FAM/FLIR_CONCLUSION.html
(Having written that, all I can think of is GLP UFO nuts and their constant sarcastic refrain of 'swamp gas').
Second one is an astronaut saying there are classified files on UFOs/aliens. Again, not actual evidence, just claims.
So, again, can you point us at something, anything, that has actually been produced by a governmental agency somewhere on Earth, which says something along the lines of "extraterrestrial craft and/or alien visitations are real".
Last edited by hemi; January 31st, 2013 at 05:30 PM.
No. Why would it?
This is from the White House correspondents' dinner. This, as with much of what's said during the speeches given at the event, is a joke.
Last edited by hemi; January 31st, 2013 at 05:23 PM.
Many true things my friend are said in jest.. You heard him say he will win the war on Christmas (a thinly veiled reference towards Christians who celebrate this pagan holiday)? What about when he said he was going to bring in a policy called it's raining men (a reference to gay marriage)? Or when he said he was not born in a manger but was actually born on krypton and sent by his father Jor-El to save the planet earth (basically saying he's not Jesus but better, he's freaking Superman!)? All in jest but I know better.. What president speaks like this? lol sighs..
And you know Jesus came riding on a donkey.. funny the democratic symbol is the donkey. Did you know Rush Limbaugh calls Obama the 12th Imam (Islamic Savior/Christian Antichrist). Sean Hannity calls Obama the anointed one. Oprah just calls him the one. Jamie Fox calls him Lord and Savior. Louis Farrakhan calls him the Messiah. What freaking president has ever received such praise?? Hitler??
America has become Obama'snation..Obamanation. And he's going to bring about the Obamanation that causes desolation when he causes Americans to get chipped. The world will follow. America will be judged. Like Obama said, America is no longer a Christian nation. Babylon the Great will fall (by a Russian nuclear strike after the invasion of Iran). Russia has gone on record saying, "I'm not trying to spook anyone but there will be thermonuclear warfare if you mess with Iran" <Medvedev said that..
I don't know the timetable for when the UFO's will be revealed on a large scale but President Reagan during the Cold War with the Russians once said an outside threat from aliens will help unite the world.
If you follow Albert Pike he said WW3 will bring about the NWO so... It's all about uniting the world to this Beast Government System and have everyone chipped. < That's if you believe what the Rockefellers and rich banksters say. America has gone on record saying we are run by the big banks.
LOL, Oh boy I hope I'm making a little sense here to you. I know it may be a little hard to connect all the dots and I understand that.
Last edited by Jaysen; January 31st, 2013 at 05:53 PM.
No, a blatant jibe at Fox News who were going 'War-on-Christmas' crazy last year. The other stuff? Jokes.
We wait with bated breath. What if he runs out of time?
Reagan theorised that an external alien threat might help unite the world. He might be right. It remains theoretical with there being no actual alien threat at present.
And no need for the large scale reveal. We're quite happy whatever small-scale evidence you can present from the world's governments that acknowledges extraterrestrial/alien vists.
Could it be? A JFK speech referencing shadowy controllers that Mick doesn't know about? He WILL be pleased.
I'll have a look.
"Details beget facts, and facts, judiciously sent forth, become assassins."
- Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association (27 April 1961) Audio President Kennedy's address was delivered to the American Newspaper Publishers Association at a Bureau of Advertising dinner held at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City. In his speech President Kennedy addresses his discontent with the press's news coverage before, during, and after the Bay of Pigs incident, suggesting that there is a need for "far greater public information" and "far greater official secrecy."The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.
So he was making the case, after a significant moment of national crisis that may have brought the world to thermo-nuclear war, for a need for greater governmental secrecy due to the serious and potentially catastrophic nature of the cold war. He was justifying the need for it, while trying to assure that he would not betray the ethical principles of an open society, and not allow the need for secrecy to get out of hand or play into the hands of any hypothetical Machiavellian group behind the scenes.
Last edited by Pete Tar; January 31st, 2013 at 09:03 PM.
"Details beget facts, and facts, judiciously sent forth, become assassins."
There's a thread for that:
http://metabunk.org/threads/162-Debu...onspiracy-quot
I see owls.
Oh, didn't realise it was the same speech as the 'launch' phrase is different. And I don't find that phrase in your thread? Clearly it's the same subject, same dinner party.
RE your one line debunk "He was talking about communists."
Specifically in this instance, I would say, he was addressing the concerns of the freedom of the press at a time when greater discretion in media information was required.
"Details beget facts, and facts, judiciously sent forth, become assassins."
Um.. I thought you wrote word for word the speech.. But I did not see you write it's dissenters are silenced. Could Kennedy have been a dissenter and got silenced for trying to "change" the way things worked in America?Oh, didn't realise it was the same speech as the 'launch' phrase is different. And I don't find that phrase in your thread? Clearly it's the same subject, same dinner party.
RE your one line debunk "He was talking about communists."
Specifically in this instance, I would say, he was addressing the concerns of the freedom of the press at a time when greater discretion in media information was required.
Secret Societies, Secret Oaths.. Skull and Bones.. .. Bush, Kerry? < You know change that sort of thing (there are more secret societies, I know)?.
That's the theme of the whole speech. I was focussing on the "monolithic and ruthless conspiracy" part, which does specifically refer to communism. I didn't think about a separate explanation for "The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." Here my one-liner is also no appropriate, as "secret societies" here is, as far as I can tell, not about anything in particular (although LBJ uses the term to refer to the KKK)Oh, didn't realise it was the same speech as the 'launch' phrase is different. And I don't find that phrase in your thread? Clearly it's the same subject, same dinner party.
RE your one line debunk "He was talking about communists."
Specifically in this instance, I would say, he was addressing the concerns of the freedom of the press at a time when greater discretion in media information was required.
It's a long speech. You should try reading the entire thing.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=8093
This video studies how evil is systematically fulfilling Bible prophecy. It is a 6,000 year survey of secret societies and 220 year survey of progressively engineered warfare. Far from "conspiracy theory" or "Bible thumping", it calmly relies on original source documents. This video will challenge your world view, regardless of your background. It is for those who want the truth.
The author is Leonard Ulrich a man far smarter than I. It's a big history lesson. I think it needs to be metadebunked for those who have the time to watch it. It's over 2 hours of historical facts and footage. It's a monumental task but.. I'd like to see what this community here comes up with to try to debunk this video.
It may take a couple days or weeks to try to debunk it because Mr. Ulrich goes in on the information here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYZksdzVxic
I've heard the entire thing.. It is long. It's longer than the video I posted.
Looks like the usual stuff.
Maybe you could pick what you consider to be the most well evidenced claim from there, and we can discuss that.
Usual stuff? This guy has got the most comprehensive video I've seen. He said it took him 2 years of researching to come up with all of it as he wanted it to be as accurate as possible. I've seen literally hundreds of videos so.. This one is very well put together.
Wow.. lol, you really don't care to know the truth. I don't understand. It's not scary. So what if your worldview changes? You're not that old to change your worldview. I was 28 and I'll be honest, once I opened my mind and really started paying attention to what was being said, it all made sense. Then again I do study bible prophecy so that helps. I kid you not, this whole conspiracy thing is right in the bible.
Let me go ahead and see what's on the video for debunking lol. I see the community here won't touch it. That's fine.
I saw no one tried to disprove my other video I posted about the rabbi inadvertently confirming Jesus's words concerning the Antichrist. Perhaps you can try using the Strongs Hebrew Dictionary, though that doesn't disprove only confirms. I guess Jesus really did reveal the name of the AntiChrist.
"Salon happens to have a “modern Jewish rabbi” right here. “They want to say it would be pronounced ‘Ubamah,’” says Rabbi Dan Ehrenkrantz, president of the Reconstructionist Rabbinical College, in Wyncote, Pa. “No — it would be ‘Uvamah.’” The YouTube video’s narrator is correct that the Hebrew letter vav would have to become a “u” or “o” sound, but the letter that the word “bamah” starts with would also have to shift, to a “v” sound. “It doesn’t hold up even within its own silly logic,” Ehrenkrantz says. (I had also tried to reach a Salon editor’s nephew, who has been studying Hebrew for his upcoming bar mitzvah, but he was in math camp and unavailable for comment.)"
It's funny that in Spanish the B's and V's are sometimes confused when speaking. Same thing here I see. Interesting.
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"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States... And of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
(David Rockefeller, Memoirs, 2002, P.405)
I'm pretty sure the debunk community will say, "No, no, David didn't mean what he said. He was actually saying he likes cookies and cream Ice Cream. You got it all wrong Jaysen. Welcome to debunked Jaysen.
lol You guys are tremendous.
"Pat Robertson has written in a book a few years ago that we should have a world government, but only when the Messiah arrives (laughter in the background). He wrote, literally, "any attempt to achieve World Order before that time must be the work of the devil! (more laughter in the background)" Well, join me. I'm glad to sit here at the right hand of Satan (more faint laughter in the crowd)."
(Walter Cronkite, World Federalist Association Meeting)
Only an Atheist or Agnostic person would find this sort of talk humorous as the attendees of the World Federalist Association Meeting did. I'm not surprised.
Cronkite has also for many years been the recorded voice of the owl at the "Cremation of Care" ritual at Bohemian Grove.
Last edited by Jaysen; February 1st, 2013 at 03:19 PM.
They are globalists. So what?
Great, I'm glad we can agree on One thing
Well, these people don't have the best interests of the United States in mind or the world for that matter.
It's basically what I've been ranting about all along about these people.
Henry Kissinger said Obama's reception around the world is extraordinary and it's a great opportunity for him to set up a New World Order. He literally said that was his task!
We all know it's coming.. League of Nations, United Nations and soon, New World Order. It always happens after every major world war and we are in one at the present time, sadly.
Once Obama can achieve peace and security for the world (or peace between Israel and Palestine/Arab world) then maybe he'll deserve his Nobel Peace Prize (any of y'all noticed the spiral in the sky welcoming his arrival in Norway the day before he arrived?).
To assist Israel with its on-going efforts to forge a peaceful, negotiated settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that results in two states living side by side in peace and security, and to encourage Israel’s neighbors to recognize Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state<<from HR4133, Sec. 3 Line 6 or 666, signed on the 9th of Av, a day of calamity for the Jewish people.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.(1 Thessalonians 5:3)
Sighs.. to us Bible prophecy followers this doesn't bode well but at least we know the return of Jesus is soon.
The Goal of The New World Order:
A Single World Ruler for:
A One-World Government
A One-World Economy
A One-World Military
A One-World Society
A One-World Religion
Enforced with Absolute Control
Here is another thing I found..
"The Georgia Guidestones is a mysterious monument on which are carved ten “commandments” for a “New Age of Reason”. The first commandment? Maintaining the world population under 500 million people. Another sinister fact: the authors of what we now call "the American Stonehedge" are still a “mystery”… except for those in the know.
We will look at the numerous features of this monument, its message calling for a New World Order and explain how it is the work of an occult secret society."
The Guidestones describe the ideal world, as envisioned by occult Secret Societies. The monument is therefore proof of an existing link between secret societies, the world elite and the push for a New World Order."
Only way to dwindle the population to that number would be with fire (thermonoclear weapon) like the Bible predicts. This is what they want. A lower population is easier to control, of course.
Supposedly, Henry Kissinger has been quoted saying, "World population needs to be decreased by 50%."
7 Billion people is too many for just a few thousand men to control.
Last edited by Jaysen; February 1st, 2013 at 04:50 PM. Reason: adding
Mick talked about this in another thread... let me link it for you:
The second is real, from his 2002 memoirs, I think here his meaning is that he is trying to "build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will", and he freely admits to that. But he's also gently mocking that some people characterize that as "a secret cabal" and "a conspiracy", which it is only in the loosest sense.
Rockefeller is an internationalist, he makes no secret of it. Many people have similar political views. ]He's an internationalist, and he does thing he thinks will promote the internationalist cause. Most of the the things he does will involve other people. In a very loose sense you can say that's a conspiracy.
I was just saying what his meaning seems like to me. But logically the "proof" might be that if he's in a secret cabal, then revealing that fact would make it no longer a secret, so that's inconsistent. If he was simply joking, playing with words, then the sentence makes perfect sense.
Debunking really is not about finding proof that things are not a particular way. It's more about point out flaws in arguments, and noting the absence of evidence. It is obviously impossible to prove that there is not a secret cabal.http://metabunk.org/threads/431-Anyo...k-these-quotesIt does not, however, necessarily follow that there's a secret conspiracy. He's mocking "we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States". Since obviously he can't be part of a secret cabal and admit its existence - as then it would no longer be secret.
Last edited by Clock; February 1st, 2013 at 04:21 PM.
Show me your evidence... oh yeah, you don`t have any.
Also, what do you think about this? It's an article that I found on a pretty darn good debunking website (will be uploaded in many parts):
What is the “Global Domination Agenda”?
For purposes of this article I will refer to the conspiracy theory at issue as the “Global Domination Agenda,” because that’s the term used by the makers of the Thrive movie. I conceive of this conspiracy theory as being essentially synonymous with the idea of the “Illuminati” or the “New World Order,” both much more popular terms than “Global Domination Agenda.” Exactly what this conspiracy theory means, and what its details are, differ widely depending on who believes it. It’s impossible to come up with a description of this conspiracy theory that takes into account all permutations of it; however, the most commonly agreed-upon features of the theory generally hold:
- That a group of persons, entities and business interests exert total, or at least significant, control over international relations, economics, media and technology on a global scale;
- That this group has some sort of internal unity—i.e., that its actors are working in concert toward a common goal or goals; and
- That either the direct goal of this group, or the effect of their goals, is to consolidate dictatorial power over all, most, or a significant portion of the world’s people.
Believers in a “Global Domination Agenda” are probably the most intractable and unyielding of all conspiracy theorists. Many debunkers simply throw up their hands when confronted with a believer in this theory, because it’s virtually impossible to convince them that this conspiracy theory is illogical and completely unsupported by evidence. Nevertheless, a full debunking of the Thrive film wouldn’t be complete without at least an attempt at addressing this conspiracy theory. Therefore, we will try to analyze why people believe in this conspiracy theory and what can be done to demonstrate that the “Global Domination Agenda” does not exist.
Show me your evidence... oh yeah, you don`t have any.
The Central Assumption Behind The Theory.
At its core, the “Global Domination Agenda” conspiracy theory is an assumption. Conspiracy believers simply assume that points 1, 2, and 3 are true. Once they make this assumption, virtually anything they see they will interpret as “evidence” supporting the truth of points 1, 2 and 3. Basically, they think it’s true because it’s true. The circular and self-reinforcing nature of the assumption admits no outside stimulus that can either support or refute the points of the assumption.
How do we know that a group of persons, entities and business interests exert total, or at least significant, control over international relations, economics, media and technology on a global scale? Because they do, and if you don’t agree, you’re a blind brainwashed sheeple. How do we know that this group has some sort of internal unity—i.e., that its actors are working in concert toward a common goal or goals? Because they are, and if you don’t agree, you haven’t done your research. How do we know that that either the direct goal of this group, or the effect of their goals, is to consolidate dictatorial power over all, most, or a significant portion of the world’s people? Because it is. Wake up!
This is a difficult point to grasp. At the risk of making this more complicated than it is, I’ll attempt to demonstrate it graphically.
A diagram: the “Global Domination Agenda” and its logical links.
Let us map out how this system would work if the “Global Domination Agenda” was true. A graph of it would look like a pyramid. There would have to be some sort of unified command, a group of ultimate decision-makers, at the very top. Let’s call this the “Global Domination Elite” or GDE for short (a term I just made up, but call it what you want—Illuminati, NWO, reptilians, whatever). There would have to be connections of some type between the GDE and the persons, entities, governments etc. that they use to do their bidding. Let’s call that layer the “Action Elements.” There would have to be connections of some type between the Action Elements and the individual acts or conditions that they create—the “Results” layer.
Show me your evidence... oh yeah, you don`t have any.
In order to prove that the “Global Domination Agenda” is true, you need to prove (I) that each layer of this pyramid exists; and (II) the connections between each layer. Without both I or II, the very idea of a “Global Domination Agenda” collapses.
Believers in the “Global Domination Agenda” simply assume that I and II are either already proven, are self-evident, or can be proven by evidence that in fact does not point to either I or II.
I don’t expect this statement to make much sense without concrete examples. So, we’ll get to some.
Example One: “The GDE deliberately created the global economic crisis!”
This type of claim is very common among “Global Domination Agenda” believers. In fact it is presumed in Thrive that the GDE deliberately tanked the world’s economy as part of whatever their plan is supposed to be. If you ask a “Global Domination Agenda” believer to prove this, he or she will usually offer two types of “evidence”:
1. Links to news articles about wrongdoing by mortgage bankers, irresponsible economic decisions by governments or corporations, or trends about worsening economic conditions like foreclosure or unemployment.
2. Statements of opinion, often made by other conspiracy theorists, that the GDE or persons working for them created the economic crisis.
But note what’s really happening. News articles about bad economic decisions, corporate malfeasance etc. only prove the existence of the results—not the cause, not the connections between the various layers of the pyramid. That sort of evidence goes to prove only these parts of the diagram…
[click to see larger] …not these.
Think about it. A CNN.com news article that Acme Megabank made a series of disastrous loans between 2000 and 2008, when they should have known better, does not prove the connection between Acme Megabank and the GDE. All it proves is that Acme Megabank made a series of disastrous loans when they should have known better. An article about how youth unemployment is at 30% and getting worse does not prove the connection between the employers who are refusing to offer jobs to young people and the GDE. All it proves is that there’s a youth unemployment problem. But we know that already.
Proving one set of connections and then the other doesn’t work either. Thus, proving that the former CEO of Acme Megabank is now Assistant Secretary of the Treasury does not make the connection, because you still haven’t proven that Acme Megabank acted on the GDE’s orders to make those disastrous loans. You have to prove connection from the bottom up—from the result all the way up to the GDE.
Furthermore, statements of opinion, or unsourced assertions, by other conspiracy theorists—“Guess what? The directors of Acme Megabank made those disastrous loans on purpose to further the Global Domination Agenda!”—similarly proves nothing. It does not prove the existence of the GDE, nor the connections between the GDE and the Action Elements. All it proves is that somebody thinks there are connections. But that is not proof that the connections exist.
Indeed, these pieces of “evidence” are totally meaningless unless you already accept the assumption that the “Global Domination Agenda” exists. Then, and only then, do they become relevant. This is an other illustration of the point that the “Global Domination Agenda” conspiracy theory operates on totally circular logic.
More at : http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/...enda-debunked/
Show me your evidence... oh yeah, you don`t have any.
Cairenn (February 1st, 2013)
Is it worth mentioning that a pervasive active RFID scheme like you're implying requires not only expensive infrastructure but willingness of those being tracked to recharge the tags?
I just don't get the technophobia around RFID. It is trivial fool most RFID systems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYZksdzVxic < If you care to know the truth. I have a hunch that all the "debunkers" on this website do not believe in the living GOD lol.. its just a hunch.
God of all things? Obama a deity? the Destroyer of Evil? Newsweek? Is that the company who made a merger with the Daily Beast Company? Ooh.. I just hope this is some sick joke from the NewsBeast Company (I can't make this stuff up lol). They seem to portray Obama as a GOD lol or something of that nature. Bunch of nuts out there.
How can this be? 9/11 References in the Simpsons before 9/11? Most likely just a random coincidence. Yeah, Very plausible. I mean we are all just random coincidences existing here in the cosmos. Soon we'll return back to the dirt and who knows? Maybe we'll reincarnate or something, right?
Are those kids being thought to say, "KITE,PLANE,MUST,HIT,STEEL"? Oh never mind lol, how silly of meThey're actually saying, KITE,HIT,STEAL,PLAYING,MUST. Whoops. Wait, are they reading "The Pet Goat"? As long as it doesn't look like the goat on the bottom I'm okay.
The Twin Towers? The Pentagon? World War Three? New World Older? Illuminati Playing Card Game? What?? What rubbish.
Is that Obama Bin Laden? I mean Osama Bin Laden? Was that picture photo shopped? Is it me or does Osama and Obama look alike? Guys the war on terror is a hoax. Don't be deceived. It's simply an excuse for war and chaos. The motto is Order out of Chaos. New World Order out of Chaos. Sighs..
http://rememberbuilding7.org/ <I wonder how that one came down.
Mr. Clock these people are admitted internationalist people who plan on achieving their globalist agenda. How can you refute that when they themselves admit it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW8iICBkLYs < Ron Paul asked about NWO and One-World Government
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZakTX3dGeE < Ron Paul Confirms New World Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxPYa5mVlYU < Those Who Doubt the NWO Conspiracy...Listen Closely
I'm sorry Clock, You Are highly intelligent yet, you'd make a lousy lawyer, police officer, detective, P.I. or any other job that involves connecting dots, researching and investigating. Educate yourself a bit more and try to look a little deeper into things. I don't understand your argument. Are you refuting that there is no plan for a One-World Council?? Sighs.. Do you live in America?
"We are grateful to The Washington Post, [COLOR=#009900 !important]The New York Times[/COLOR], Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the worldif we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, [COLOR=#009900 !important]the work[/COLOR] is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a worldgovernment. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller [June, 1991]
The bottom is paraphrased...It came from an interview by Aaron Russo. He's on the left, Nick is on the right. RIP Aaron Russo.
"The end goal is to get everybody chipped, to control the whole society, to have the bankers and the elite people control the world." Nicholas Rockefeller
Last edited by Jaysen; February 1st, 2013 at 08:58 PM.
Well, I can say that the magazine does not look like the sculpture. First off, Obama is standing on the wrong leg, and he seems to have more arms than the sculpture. Note that the sculpture isn't holding anything either (from what I can see) The "God Of All Things" tagline is ridiculous and misleading, but as the writing says on the side, it is just saying that Obama is taking care of lots of issues America faces. the rest to me, is artsy fartsy. I mean, do you honestly think that's what they had in mind when they made that front cover for the magazine? That sculpture on the right?
God of all things? Obama a deity? the Destroyer of Evil? Newsweek? Is that the company who made a merger with the Daily Beast Company? Ooh.. I just hope this is some sick joke from the NewsBeast Company (I can't make this stuff up lol). They seem to portray Obama as a GOD lol or something of that nature. Bunch of nuts out there.
5 Absurd (But Mind Blowing) Pop Culture Conspiracy Theories
#5.
The Fox Network Predicted the 9/11 Attacks
It's fun to imagine that the world's strings are secretly being pulled by an underground group of powerful men, and that Rupert Murdoch, the founder and CEO of the Fox networks' parent corporation, is a member. But the reality has a lot more to do with statistics. It turns out a show that hits on as many real world subjects as The Simpsons will accidentally "predict" a number of events if it's on the air for 20 years, four presidential administrations and approximately 60 million episodes. For instance it "predicted" that the universe would turn out to be doughnut shaped, and that Roy of Siegfried and Roy would be mauled by one of his own tigers.
It's also a matter of statistics if you look at the source. If you let a crazy person rant long enough, they're bound to hit on a strange coincidence that makes you cock your head to the side. In this case, the epicenter of the conspiracy seems to be the remarkably crazy radio talk show host Alex Jones, who's other hobbies include blaming the Jews for, well, everything. Of course, Jones has little to say about the Illuminati anti-Roy, pro-tiger mauling policy.
The fact is, if you look hard enough, you can find plenty of other movies, TV shows and books "foreshadowing" the attacks. Go get your DVD of The Big Lebowski and watch the beginning: The Dude's check is dated September 11th. And, playing on the television while he fills it out, is President Bush, Sr. giving his famous "This will not stand" speech from 1990... a speech about the need to go to war in Iraq. The Coen Brothers were in on it, too!
Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_18747...#ixzz2JkjVi0v0
... no comment.Are those kids being thought to say, "KITE,PLANE,MUST,HIT,STEEL"? Oh never mind lol, how silly of me
Lol, could be. it seems like a joke to me, do you know the name of these trading cards?
The Twin Towers? The Pentagon? World War Three? New World Older? Illuminati Playing Card Game? What?? What rubbish.
Obviously, the third one is fake. However... is that picture an official pic released by the government? If it is then you might be on something here, and if it's not, then...
Is that Obama Bin Laden? I mean Osama Bin Laden? Was that picture photo shopped? Is it me or does Osama and Obama look alike? Guys the war on terror is a hoax. Don't be deceived. It's simply an excuse for war and chaos. The motto is Order out of Chaos. New World Order out of Chaos. Sighs
really? Let's look:Is it me or does Osama and Obama look alike?
Is it me or does Osama and Obama look alike?
Is it me or does Osama and Obama look alike?
hmm, not really, Obama's ears stick out more, and Osama's nose is bigger than Obama's. Osama also has a big beard, while Obama does not. From that picture, it looks as if Osama has broad shoulders, and I do not recall Obama having broad shoulders.
Talked about this in another thread :http://rememberbuilding7.org/ <
Conspiracy theorists say World Trade Center 7 is the best proof for controlled demolition because it wasn't hit by airliners and only had a few fires. They also claim that there was a confession from the building owner who said he "pulled" it. But this is deceptive because while building 7 wasn't hit by an airliner, it was hit by the large perimeter columns of the Tower collapse. It was 400 ft away but the towers were more than 1300 ft tall. As the tower peeled open, it easily tilted over to reach building 7. Below is evidence showing that conspiracy theorists are wrong. Excerpts from Mark Roberts "World Trade Building 7 and the Lies of the 9/11 Truth Movement"Yes, that worker certainly does say they’re getting ready to “pull” building six. Then we have a quote from Luis Mendes, from the NYC Department of Design and Construction:
“We had to be very careful about how we demolished building 6. We were worried about building 6 coming down and damaging the slurry walls, so we wanted that particular building to fall within a certain area.”
Interesting. They needed to be sure that building 6 came down in a “controlled” way. But wait a second: the video clip that Alex Jones presents – the clip that’s shown on all the conspiracist websites –ends abruptly at this point. Huh? Where’s the money shot? Why’d they cut it there?This is what a firefighter, who was there on that day, had to say:Here’s why:Because the following scene shows how building 6 was “pulled”: with cables attached to the hydraulic arms of four excavators, not with explosive charges.
“We’ve got the cables attached in four different locations going up. Now they’re pulling the building to the north. It’s not every day you try to pull down a eight story building with cables.”
Narrator Kevin Spacey: “The use of explosives to demolish World Trade Centers 4, 5 and 6 was rejected for fear workers would risk their lives entering buildings to set the charges.”
Why do they pull that part of the documentary out of the conspiracy story? This is yet another example of outright deception by the so called "truth" movement and its leaders like Alex Jones. They draw their stories around the truth like a child drawing around their hand.
Something that conspiracy theorists forget is the amount of fire burning from building 7. Here's a few pics that show the amount of smoke shooting out of the buildings:
Larry Silversteen, who owned the building at the time had this to say:"Then we found out, I guess around 3:00 [o'clock], that they thought 7 was going to collapse. So, of course, [we've] got guys all in this pile over here and the main concern was get everybody out, and I guess it took us over an hour and a half, two hours to get everybody out of there. (Q. Initially when you were there, you had said you heard a few Maydays?) Oh, yes. We had Maydays like crazy.... The heat must have been tremendous. There was so much [expletive] fire there. This whole pile was burning like crazy. Just the heat and the smoke from all the other buildings on fire, you [couldn't] see anything. So it took us a while and we ended up backing everybody out, and [that's] when 7 collapsed.... Basically, we fell back for 7 to collapse, and then we waited a while and it got a lot more organized, I would guess." - Lieutenant William Ryan
"A little north of Vesey I said, we’ll go down, let’s see what’s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.
Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?
Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.
Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?
Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.
Captain Chris Boyle
Engine 94 - 18 years
(P.S. What Silversteen means by pulling, it means "Get the hell out of there!""I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."
This is what his spokesperson, Mr. McQuillan, had to say:
"In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building."
Is that enough info for you? I believe the big white elephant out lasted his welcome.
Thanks http://www.debunking911.com/index.html
http://911myths.com/html/wtc7_damage.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW8iICBkLYs < Ron Paul asked about NWO and One-World Government
Hey says he 'thinks' but he doesn't know for sure. What? he works in the government but he doesn't know for sure? Oof!
He talks about that time where George Bush Senior mentioned NWO. Here is what another great debunker has to say about that:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZakTX3dGeE < Ron Paul Confirms New World Order
http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/...enda-debunked/Example Two: “George H.W. Bush said he was instituting the New World Order!”
Believers in the “Global Domination Agenda,” when they are not providing “evidence” along the lines discussed above, will sometimes point to “incriminating” statements by persons they believe to be part of the GDE, supposedly indicating an “admission” of their true agenda. One of the favorites in this category is a speech made on March 6, 1991 by President George H.W. Bush in which he used the words “New World Order.” Supposedly this indicates an “admission” that the New World Order, as conceived by conspiracy theorists, exists, and that Bush was one of the people trying to implement it.
But does it, though? I doubt most conspiracy theorists have actually read Bush’s speech, in which he outlined his vision of a world following the Persian Gulf War. Here is the full text (http://millercenter.org/president/speeches/detail/3430). He does in fact use the words “new world order.” But, if you read the full speech—I won’t excerpt it here because I encourage you to read it for yourself—it’s very clear he’s not talking about global domination. He’s talking about a vision for foreign policy which, ironically, ultimately did not come to pass. How, then, does this prove the existence of a “Global Domination Agenda”?
Time and time again, believers in a “Global Domination Agenda” will serve up these sorts of tidbits, which do not stand for the propositions they claim they stand for. (At least Bush’s “New World Order” speech is real, even though it doesn’t say what they think he said. Often, quotes by high-ranking figures used by conspiracy theorists are simply false. For example, the Thrive movie claims that Henry Kissinger makes an ominous-sounding statement. I cannot find any reputable source—meaning, not another conspiracy theorist website—that even indicates Kissinger ever said this.)
the last video shows that rockefellar is an internationalist and he doesn't deny that he believes in that. again, go back to that previous comment where I quote Mick,
That's ok ,I thank you for calling me smart, but I don't want to do any of those jobs, so
I'm sorry Clock, You Are highly intelligent yet, you'd make a lousy lawyer, police officer, detective, P.I. or any other job that involves connecting dots, researching and investigating. Educate yourself a bit more and try to look a little deeper into things. I don't understand your argument. Are you refuting that there is no plan for a One-World Council?? Sighs.. Do you live in America?
Show me your evidence... oh yeah, you don`t have any.
Would you mind addressing the technological feasibility of a widespread active RFID program?
Or would you rather have a thread where you can ignore people's posts and instead gish gallop the common America-is-a-world-domination-cult-but-only-because-of-Obama tropes?
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Clock (February 11th, 2013)
If the government has high tech secret weapons (they get declassified after 20-50 years) and UFO's (they have yet to be released on a larger scale).. an RFID program I would say would not be out of reach, don't you think?
As far as America being a world domination cult.. lol, I believe that it is. I've seen and heard too much to think any less. We are the world's big bully and cast such a big shadow in the UN. But America will fall, the dollar will fall and soon thereafter we will all be annihilated by thermonuclear weapons.
If only I could live underground, say maybe under the Denver Airport. My friend (he's 62) who was in the military and has kids in the military (my family also has a strong military presence) told me they have a whole city under that airport. That's where I'd like to be when the bombs start coming in. I want to live lol.
If you have no belief in GOD the conspiracy will not make sense to you. The bible predicts this sort of thing. You should research those people who have died and come back to life. Hear what they say.. We will all die one day and we will all cross over.. hopefully none of us goes to hell.
You did not answer his question. Do you, or do you not?
Show me your evidence... oh yeah, you don`t have any.
Yes, it is out of even their reach for two very simple reasons.
Active RFID requires:
* expensive infrastructure(deployed nationally according to what you're implying, it would be noticed)
and most importantly...
* the people being tracked must willingly recharge their tags.
Nevermind that the people being tracked could just leave their tags wherever they please. Nevermind that RFID is extremely easy to fool.
Active RFID tags are by nature excluded from being subdermal, unless they have induction charging(regardless they must still be willingly recharged....). I have yet to see any.
You have a severely undernourished worldview if you think the US is the "world's big bully" and nothing else. Similarly if you think the US is in any danger of "falling" you're deluding yourself.
I think you're techno-phobic and need to do some learning.
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What about this?I mean, do you honestly think that's what they had in mind when they made that front cover for the magazine?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZhYtaTR7W0 < Fox News talking about Obama and comparisons to "the Messiah" by the NewsBeast company
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37B_nOdRTAA < MSNBC guest (NewsBeast editor) talking about Obama as a sort of God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fROcglfTv8 < YouTube User connects dots and builds a strong case for Barack being the false savior of the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJFyRu3XLnE < MSNBC joking about Obama and his pledge to Satan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmG7cMWc9A8 < YouTube User connects more dots adding credence to Obama being false Christ of the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeTVRXaDBxI&list=PLA3F8274B2F37D28C < YouTube User makes Obama as King because of US Laws in place
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqZkj2QpZRQ < YouTube User connects Dark Knight rises with the Antichrist rising to power
The people see and hear yet they still do not believe something is not quite right. They have hardened their hearts for the truth and would rather believe a lie. I'm telling you he is "The One". The false savior of the world. It's not the Pope. It's Obama.
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Oh here's that thing about the denver airport:
http://www.strangehistory.org/cms/in...iracy-debunkedTunnels
Denver Airport Tunnel
The conspiracy theory is that the tunnels underneath DIA are used to house the headquarters of the New World Order.
- Furthermore, these tunnels will be used in the future to house political prisoners. It has also been theorized that these tunnels are being used by the United States government to perform electromagnetic experiments, with one such experiment citing that in a single day the windshields of 14 aircraft cracked or broke.
- Strange history.org has examined this phenomenon and can find no basis for any of these claims. It is widely known that the tunnels underneath DIA house the transit system for the airport as well as the baggage transit system for the airport that was officially shut down in 2003 as it was plagued with mechanical problems. In the investigation of cracked windshields, the NTSB determined that high wind and cold temperatures were the deciding factor for the strange but not uncommon incident.
The larger question is that if the United States government or the New World Order are operating at the Denver international Airport, why would they do so?
- According to the conspiracy theories this is a top-secret organization. Why would a top-secret organization put their headquarters underneath the footprints of over 40 million people a year and why would the United States government do top-secret experiments at that location when NORAD is located only 75 miles away within the safety of a granite mountain?
Conspiracy theorists have long questioned why the City of Denver believed that they needed a new airport citing that the DIA has fewer gates and less runways than Stapleton International Airport.
- In a full analysis of all facts involved, Strangehistory.org has determined that Stapleton International Airport was antiquated having been built in 1920. Through the years Stapleton had been added to and enlarged to the point that there was nowhere else to go. With a desire for increased nonstop service to overseas destinations, the runways at Stapleton would not be long enough for the heavier, larger planes.
http://conspiracies.skepticproject.c...ous_horse_shotNormally a building that is built wrong would be demolished, but in this case, it was not. This allowed for an underground base to be created, but there are still workers that are sent to these underground bases periodically, but when they are questioned about the nature of their work, they all refuse to comment.
So, you've got documentation of this? A video of a worker refusing? Oh wait, there's nothing at all, anywhere?
These underground bases have been undergoing more construction and now have underground tunnels that connect all the buildings together. According to a contractor, these tunnels have a strange sprinkler system that was added on to the roofs of the tunnel, but the sprinkler system has no valid use as these tunnels are concrete and underground.
The tunnels are a part of the underground "Denver International Airport Guideway Transit System", more tunnels were created than needed incase of expansion[21][22].Further cross ever and secondary tracks for all trains exist incase one breaks down or there are maintenance problem for the track[23].
Note: The pictures of the tunnels they show here are not from Denver International Airport.
If relating these sprinkler systems back to the sign of Au Ag, in front of the mural, regarding the genocide then one must begin to wonder what the use of a sprinkler in a concrete tunnel, 150 feet below the ground would be.
The idea of having a sprinkler system is quite logical. Who's going to put out the fire? Super man? Concrete may not be flammable, but the plastic and carpeting on trains are. The tunnels aren't 150 feet underground.
Obviously they're suggesting that the sprinklers are used to spray people with Hepatitis, but as I said, only 5-10% of them would die, so it's a tremendous waste. Plus why tunnels? Are you going to have them walk 5 miles for the hell of it?
These underground bases appear to be holding rooms due to the sheer mass and size and same say they even allude to concentration camps, this is because 1) these holding rooms have no purpose and when the airport authorities were questioned, they say they are merely being used for storage.
Note: The pictures of the tunnels and underground they show here are not from Denver International Airport, buy from conspiracy sites.
2) All the barbed wire fences face the inside of the airport, rather than facing the outside, which is what they usually do. This implies that they are trying to keep things in, rather than keep things out.
The fences at the airport are only unusual in the fact that the barbed wire is straight up and down and faces neither way, there are of course many areas not fenced in at all because of the sheer vastness of the local landscape.
Note: The pictures of the fences they show here are not from Denver International Airport, they're from so-called FEMA camps. In fact a few of these pictures are even on my FEMA page.
3) The sprinkler system have no use, but they may be related to the deadly virus Australia Antigen and the pursuits of the New World Order.
The sprinkler system has a perfect use, which I already explained, and they're unrelated in every conceivable way to Hepatitis B.
Note: The bunk bed pictures in particular are from another so-called FEMA camp.
People have attempted to argue that the underground bases are being used for storage, but one fact must be questioned: And that is why is the underground base 88.5 square miles long? And why were the five buildings mysteriously buried? No airport has, or needs, that much storage room.
They probably are used for storage and maintenance, the fallacy here is that they aren't 88.5 "square miles long". Do they not realize they just stated that the underground is bigger than the entire land the airport sits on? Where do they get this number? I can only assume a conspiracy site, because it's total garbage.
They flash a document on screen that's a letter from a congressional representative to conspiracy theorist Zell Setzer. The letter simply states the information he requested, not the actual information therein, but he circles the statement as if it proves anything at all.
So what is this space really being used for? Whenever the authorities are questioned they are not allowed to answer.
They're not allowed to answer? Says who? Do you have evidence? Is there anyone on film saying they won't answer?
Or are you just quoting crazy conspiracy theorist, Greg Ericson, who was harassing airport employees via email and was angry that nobody would "answer" his questions. When they did answer them, he ignored the answer, and demanded the answer be his predetermined conclusion.
We are not the only ones who seem to be fascinated with this airport. The Queen of England, alongside many other famous European Royalty and politicians are hurriedly buying property next to the airport under an alias.
Are you kidding me? They provide no evidence of this, they don't even tell us this "alias".
One can only assume that they must feel that there is something significant about this airport in order to do so. It is very easy to dismiss a conspiracy theory, but it is not hard[sic] dismiss cold hard fact that surround them. The odd happenings in this airport have been called to questions[sic], but all the questions have been dismissed and have not been answered. Is the New World Order really going to attempt to take over? And if they are, does that mean our own government is involved? Research, nowadays, can only do so much, now only time will tell.
No it isn't hard, because it's bullshit. Most conspiracy theorists show at least some documentation, some actual photographs, instead this shows unrelated garbage and passes off pictures of other tunnels and locations as a part of this conspiracy.
There seems to be a lack of evidence in your claims.
Show me your evidence... oh yeah, you don`t have any.
Wait, who said anything about active RFID? I thought the theory was just that people would be chipped like dogs currently are?
It's all becoming redundant now anyway, with biometrics.
In early to mid 2008 several different emails were being forwarded through the Internet claiming that Barack Obama was potentially the anti-Christ. Granted every person from Martin Luther, every single Pope, and so on has been called the anti-Christ but could this be the one? Finally could Christian prayers for the end of the world be answered? Well, let's take a closer look.
The emails were edited in all kinds of different ways but there are two primary version where the others seem to originate. I will discuss each one.
Note: I kept the grammar, spelling, and punctuation intact. Also for the sake of keeping up with the crazies, I reference the King James Version of the Bible primarily.
Barack Obama - Obama is the Anti-Christ, Debunked!
Author: Edward L Winston
Added: August 1st, 2009
Email 1
A Trivia question in Sunday School:
Great, time to drag children into this garbage.
How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations? Guess the Answer? Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.
First of all, the Beast is not the anti-Christ. While a lot of Evangelicals say so, if we are to take the Bible literally, then the Beast is a creature which comes from the ocean. He has "seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns"[1] and he was a mix of "a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion"[2] It sounds like something out of a fairy tale, but hardly like a black man.
Moving on beyond that though, what about the power thing? Well Revelation Chapter 13 says the following about the Beast: "And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months."[3] It seems to me like the author is saying the Beast will continue to blaspheme for 42 months.
Almost a four-year term to a Presidency. All I can say is Lord Have Mercy on us.!!!!!!
Ignoring all of that I said above and assuming my interpretation is completely incorrect: there are 48 months in 4 years, so does this mean Obama won't serve a full presidency? Sounds like the anti-Christ would be slacking off a bit.
According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40's,
The anti-Christ is never mentioned in the Book of Revelation, this conclusion is reached by individuals who say the described monster in Revelation is indeed the anti-Christ[4]. Revelation never says or suggests the age of the Beast - as far as I could find.
of MUSLIM descent,
If we ignore the simple fact Islam or Muslims are never mentioned in the Bible, anywhere, it's worth noting that in reality the Book of Revelation was written sometime in 68 or 69AD or later in 95 or 96AD[5]. This matters because Islam wasn't founded until sometime during 610AD when Muhammad began receiving transmissions from God[6].
Aside from the fact Islam is a religion and not an ethnicity, Revelation implies (according to believers) that the Beast (or anti-Christ as they believe) will be in fact a Christian[7]. Though you can find some people who say he will be a Jewish person - probably from the same tribe as Jesus.
who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....
These exact same arguments were used against...every popular politician for the last 2,000 years almost.
the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,
Same here, even when they didn't promise peace this was still applied to them.
and when he is in power, will destroy everything ..
Interestingly the Bible doesn't say anything about the anti-Christ destroying health care. But it does talk a lot about sharing, caring, and doing good by your neighbor - I guess maybe that's been lost in translation[8].
Is it OBAMA?? I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to repost this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet...do it! I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.
IS IT?? NO.!!!! I strongly urge people not to buy into this garbage and to stop forwarding emails unless they're actually important. Lastly, enough of this "came out of no where stuff": I actually have an article on that.
Email 2
Obama is the Anti-Christ. This is the evidence:
1.- He will come as a man of Peace (Obama promises peace in Iraq, defeat for the US)
I guess the peace that Jesus preached was war in Iraq and a long, drawn out occupation for the US.
I found an interesting quote in this popular book:
"But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."[9].I guess those red words refer to some other Jesus.
2.- He will come mounted on a white Female horse(Obama mother is white who had 6 African husbands)
At first I was at a loss on this one, but it didn't take but a second to figure out that to the author "horse = whore".
Is this idiot actually suggesting horse and whore are related? Granted, they probably believe the King James Version was sent down from heaven, but even so there's absolutely no linguistic similarly in any of the languages of the bible, and not even in English[10][11].
Obama's mother was only married twice, and to one African[12][13].
The passage in question actually refers to one of the Four Horsemen (War in this case), and the gender of the horse is never specified[14].
3.- He will come to deceive( Obama says he's a Christian but in fact he was born a Muslim, practices the Islamic religion, prays Friday's facing Mecca)
I can't think of a single politician that doesn't deceive. I have a whole section dedicated to the claim that Obama is/was a Muslim, and it's not true. Ignoring that fact, this person clearly knows nothing about Islam because Muslims (well, the ones that actually do pray often) pray five times daily towards Mecca[15].
4.- He will make himself the most powerful man on earth, if elected
Not according to Alex Jones or other conspiracy theorists.
5.- He will try to destroy the Jewish People and Israel( Obama has said he loves the Arabs specially the Palestinians, hates Israel and Jews. Admires Hitler, Osama etc)
He's never said this; if he had you surely would have heard about it some place other than in a stupid email. Obama has never said he hated Israel, and in fact said that the relationship between the US and Israel was a close and undeniable[16][17]. This also ignores the fact that he doesn't have anyone in his administration that is against Israel.
The idea that he admires Hitler and Osama is also completely unfounded and the Hitler one is especially stupid.
It reminds me of this church sign I saw that said, "We don't care if Obama says he's not a Muslim, he still is one".
6.- He will present himself as good and righteous but in fact he's Satan himself. Violence is in his heart
Again, this fits many politicians.
7.- Obama will help Al Qaida in its evil projects.
Just its evil projects?
8.- Barack Hussein Obama is the "King of the South" predicted in the Bible.(Daniel .11, Kenya is south of Jerusalem)
Ignoring the major factual error that Daniel 11:5 refers to king from the south of Persia[18], Kenya is "south of Jerusalem" in the same way that Arizona is south of Virginia.
9.- Obama comes to implant muslim Sharia Law upon America.
I guarantee, based on the scholarly workmanship above, the author has absolutely no clue what Sharia Law is.
Obama is the Anti-Christ, beware of him.
Shouldn't Christians be happy that the anti-Christ is here? Because in seven short years that means Jesus is going to come and rescue them. Even so, what about those people who believe in the rapture where they'll disappear and be whisked away to heaven (that's not in the bible by the way) before the anti-Christ takes over? Either I'm to assume they're completely wrong, or every single one of them lives so sinfully that not a single one disappeared before Obama was elected.
http://politics.skepticproject.com/a...he-antichrist/
Show me your evidence... oh yeah, you don`t have any.
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