RFID implants, the Bible, and World Domination

[Cairenn]

I want to know about the folks you said had been embalmed and then came back to life.

[Jazzy]

"The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species. It may be a long farewell, but it has begun and, like all farewells, should not be protracted." - Christopher Hitchens.

I don't.

[Jaysen]

Check out what Dr. Von Braun said about asteroids and you'll know then that the aliens in fact are coming..

As far as someone being embalmed and coming back.. I'm still looking.

[hemi]

Check out what Dr. Von Braun said about asteroids and you'll know then that the aliens in fact are coming..

As far as someone being embalmed and coming back.. I'm still looking.

I think you need to learn the difference between a second-hand prediction and a fact.

[Cairenn]

I remember that Carl Sagan predicted that the oil fires in Kuwait would cause a 'year with a summer'. It didn't and why folks thought he Knew is still a mystery to me, since he was NOT a climatologist or a meteorologist.

[Jaysen]

I think you need to learn the difference between a second-hand prediction and a fact.

Are you perplexed that a second hand prediction became a fact?

[hemi]

Are you perplexed that a second hand prediction became a fact?

I must've missed the false flag alien attack. Can you point me at some news reports?

[Jaysen]

I must've missed the false flag alien attack. Can you point me at some news reports?

lol, hey Man.. Sighs, I won't connect the dots today of all the circumstantial evidence out there involving the coming of the "aliens". I am happy that you show an interest in this. I'll say this.. When they do come, if you are still allive, know that what you see and are led to believe is not what it is.. The false flag alien invasion is the excuse that will be given to the world for the coming rapture of the church of the Messiah.

Those in the know, that are left behind, will know what the deal is.. that doesn't mean they will be safe.

It's all so that the rapture can be explained away by tangible science.

Dr. Von Braun did say after the asteroids, then the aliens..

Doesn't make any sense huh?

To add.... The whole alien invasion/rapture theory comes from me (dreams from fellow christians).. What I do know is that once they come the world will unite in an effort to get rid of this enemy. Perfect way to introduce the NWO/Microchip implants for all. It's sounds all funny now but when it comes to pass, you'll remember me. At the point you will soften your heart, repent, and know that Only GOD matters and that's it.

Remember, I've seen the vessels (1 of them) that these people/aliens travel in. It's looks and behaves unlike anything that we are accustomed to. Which is why to us it looks "alien" but little does everyone know, that it was all made here on planet earth.

I did see another UFO the other day. I believe it's the same ones appearing all over the world to people. Then again it couldve been a meteor... but.. meteors don't hover and then blast off going warp speed (that's what the object I saw did).

Sighs, I just wish I could move to a part of the world that will not be affected by this (asteroids/aliens).

[Clock]

Thank you for that brilliant "evidence"

[Cairenn]

I am still waiting for you proof of an embalmed corpse coming back to life.

If you will excuse me, I don't find the fact that 'you' saw a UFO as much evidence. In fact it is 0 evidence, just like the rest of your post is. Really, you believe in the DREAMS that folks have.

Well if you do, then I am a member of a space patrol unit and I bunk with some friends I know. I had that dream, it was very realistic, but I KNEW it was a DREAM, than me and Leni, and Jackie and Beth and Glen and Sandy and others were not in some space patrol.

I have also dreamed about yellow and pink and neon green tornadoes. ARE they real because I dreamed them?

[Clock]

I was about to say Cairenn. You and hemi been dealing with someone who sees Aliens in his dreams and think it's the truth. Some of the things he does fits with the '10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists' thread.

He seems to fit

3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from skeptics about the claims that they make.

and

6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual inquiry were a matter of responding to every rumor. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the skeptics for apparently lacking same.

[Clock]

Oh about that thing of Obama being a Freemason:


Why does President Obama wear a masonic ring?


Answer:

Actually, he doesn't wear one. This is another internet myth, that has been circulating since 2007, largely on anti-Obama and/or anti-Freemason websites. But spokespeople for the Grand Lodge of Illinois and the Prince Hall Grand Lodge have no record that the president was ever a member, nor do any other lodges. Further, Mr. Obama has never claimed to be a mason. He did speak at several masonic lodges, but he has also spoken at churches, synagogues, community colleges, and public libraries over the years.

Another version of the ring myth, debunked quickly by fact-checkers, said the president wears a ring with a Muslim prayer on it-- that too is false. News magazines have shown many photos of the president and his ring: it is a gold wedding ring with gold swirls on each side. It is not a Freemason symbol, nor a secret Muslim symbol. As pointed out many times, the president is not a Muslim... and according to the Masons, he is not a Freemason either.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_does_P...a_masonic_ring

[hemi]

lol, hey Man.. Sighs, I won't connect the dots today of all the circumstantial evidence out there involving the coming of the "aliens".

So, not a fact then. We've had no asteroid attack, and no alien attack (false flag or otherwise), which currently has Von Braun's prediction (and by extension, your own claims) at a success rate of about 0%.

[Jaysen]

the president is not a Muslim

Are you sure? I've seen videos to where he alludes to being a Muslim. I'm not saying he is, I'm saying he pretends to be all things.

Kudos to Obama for learning to recite Muslim prayers in perfect Arabic..Obama Evidence Eluding to his Beliefs >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE9mZCRX2mg

I will test you now lol.. I'm sorry.. Is Obama a Christian? If so.. does a Christian Openly Mock the Holy Bible? Does a Christian call the Koran Holy? Does a Christian say it's okay for people of the same sex to get married? The answer to all of these is yes I know but you know what I'm trying to say here, right?

I'm saying he is not christian, muslim or anything.. He is his own GOD.

What is that? Is that a masonic ring? The president is a wannabe freemason. I get it now.

[Jaysen]

So, not a fact then. We've had no asteroid attack, and no alien attack (false flag or otherwise), which currently has Von Braun's prediction (and by extension, your own claims) at a success rate of about 0%.

Do you not see the news? Sighs.. There are close to a hundred reported sightings of meteors/balls of lightning/ufo's and many of them reported by mainstream media since the incident in Russia. Coincidentally, the meteor that struck Russia came during the same time DA14 was supposed to fly by us.. I know you people believe in coincidences but c'mon.. what timing to get hit by a meteor huh?? I know the events are prophetic, that does not mean you should dismiss them. How much do you all hate the creator of the heavens and the universe?

People already in Russia are saying that the meteor that hit them was a secret US military weapon..

[hemi]

Do you not see the news? Sighs.. There are close to a hundred reported sightings of meteors/balls of lightning/ufo's and many of them reported by mainstream media since the incident in Russia. Coincidentally, the meteor that struck Russia came during the same time DA14 was supposed to fly by us ... I know you people believe in coincidences but c'mon.. what timing to get hit by a meteor huh??

It's not even a particularly unlikely coincidence. People are suddenly very aware of meteors because of the Russian event, and hence reported other meteors they saw afterwards as they thought it was related. But they weren't. Earth gets hit by hundreds of meteors every day. I see them all the time when I do some star-gazing in my backyard.

I know the events are prophetic...

They're not. Just normal stuff, happening in a normal way.

That does not mean you should dismiss them. How much do you all hate the creator of the heavens and the universe?

Hard to hate something you don't believe in.

People already in Russia are saying that the meteor that hit them was a secret US military weapon.

I'm sure they are. It doesn't make it true though, does it?

So, again, we still don't have an asteroid attack, or an alien attack. We're still at 0%.

[hemi]

What is that? Is that a masonic ring? The president is a wannabe freemason. I get it now.

Please read the link that Clock has already supplied.

Or just scroll up.

[Clock]

People already in Russia are saying that the meteor that hit them was a secret US military weapon.

People say lots of things...

[Clock]

US President Barack Obama is not a Freemason

US President Barack Obama is not a Freemason. So where did all the rumors start? The earliest reported claim is found in a post into the conspiracy website, abovetopsecret.com, on 5 March 2007, in which the anonymous poster claims to have sat in lodge with Obama. ²

The next report comes from a Bosnian discussion forum on 6 May 2007, with another anonymous claim, this time that Obama was a 32nd degree freemason.³

The text of this second post was conflated with a news story from the 28 December 2007 Des Moines Register, and within a year over a hundred websites—many of them Christian, all of them anti-masonic—were reporting that "Jason Clayworth, Register Staff Writer" wrote that "One of their most famous members, and also a 32nd degree Prince Hall Mason, became a US presidential candidate for 2008. His name is Barack Hussein Obama."⁴

In point of fact, the actual news story by Jason Clayworth, reporting on Obama's 27 December 2007 speaking engagement at the Scottish Rite Masonic Center in Des Moines, does not mention or even imply that Obama was a freemason. ⁵

The easily demonstrated fraudulent nature of this internet posting has not stopped it from being widely repeated. For example, with no citation, on 14 February 2008, Richard Syrett, a Toronto radio host,⁶ claimed that Barack Obama was a 32nd degree freemason.⁷

On 2 June 2008, when Charles Ommanney's photograph appeared in Newsweek magazine, the conspiracy theorists believed they had their proof.⁸ But, while it is true that one of the unidentified hands wears a masonic ring, there is no reason to conclude that the hands were Obama's.

Almost two years later, tenacious anti-mason "Freemasonry Watch", in his blog of 19 February 2009, reported the 2007 message from the still anonymous poster who had claimed to have sat in lodge with Obama, citing this as conclusive proof that Obama was a freemason. ⁹

Neither the Grand Lodge of Illinois nor the Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Illinois have any record that Obama was made a freemason. Obama has never said that he was a Freemason. There are no photographs of him in masonic regalia.

Who should you believe? On the one hand you have the claims of two anonymous online posters and the unknown author of an obviously fraudulent text, and on the other hand you have the denials of two established organizations that would proudly claim the President of the United States as a member, if he was.

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/...b/obama_b.html

[Clock]

How to Spot a Freemason

If you look on YouTube and a number of other HATE sites, you will find all kinds of alarmists and conspiracy theorists claiming that they know how to spot a Freemason. Something about pressing the thumb into the centre of the back of the others hand.... ?

You cannot identify a man as being a Mason solely based on how he shakes someone's hand. A Mason is identified by his habits.

If you're really interested in spotting a Mason, here's what to look for:

• He believes in a supreme being (God)
• He is most trustworthy
• He is honorable
• He holds a high and strict moral character
• He supports justice
• He has sound judgment
• He does not prejudge people based on their religious or political views
• He actively practices tolerance
• He has to be a man of mature age
• He has no criminal background
• He is a friend and a brother amongst peers

Is the POPE a Mason?



http://catholicmason.hubpages.com/hu...ot-a-Freemason
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[Clock]

Closups on those rings you were talking about:







According to many websites, Obama seems to be wearing the same ring for the past 30 years, the same ring he wore when he married Michelle, ect.

[Clock]

The only way I can see that Obama would have any ties to following Muslim belief would be from his father, but he became and atheist once he arrived in college, while Obama went to a Catholic school in Kenya after his dad divorced his mother.

Ok, so he talks about Koran a lot in the video. But let's say I use cats a lot for my analogies. Does that mean that I love cats? No!

http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...ama_muslim.htm

[Jaysen]

The only way I can see that Obama would have any ties to following Muslim belief would be from his father, but he became and atheist once he arrived in college, while Obama went to a Catholic school in Kenya after his dad divorced his mother.

Ok, so he talks about Koran a lot in the video. But let's say I use cats a lot for my analogies. Does that mean that I love cats? No!

http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...ama_muslim.htm

Is Obama's father Frank Marshal Davis? I saw nude photos of Stanley Ann Dunham taken by Frank Marshal Davis. Frank Marshal Davis was a big black communist living in Hawaii. I saw it on a DVD Dreams from my Real Father.

Dreams from my Father (it's a book) was written by Bill Ayers, a famous American Terrorist and backer of Obama.

It's funny how the weather underground logo coincidentally has parts of Obama's Logo when he ran in '08.

Wake up inhabitants of the Earth and allow yourselves to see deeper and further into things.

[Jaysen]

King James Bible(Cambridge Ed.)
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Daniel 9:27)


Unbreakable Alliance - Translated to Hebrew = A covenant of peoples

Why does the symbol include a dove? If you have read the Bible this sort of thing raises suspicion as to what in the world is doing on here?

All I try to do is tell you beforehand so that when you see these things you can repent of your sins and rejoice for the Kingdom of Heaven draweth nigh.

Russia keeps threatening USA, saying they will Nuke us. They have been threatening for the longest and will attack. America will never know. America is blinded by the Media. The media here doesn't tell the whole truth. Our History Books over here do not tell the whole truth.

God is coming very, very soon..

I say the people in America will never know but those in the know, do know. The Bible predicts all the World Leaders will give their power to the Beast in order to accomplish it's purpose. The Beast will hate Babylon the Great/America and will destroy her says the Bible. The Beast is the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT with Satan indwelling the man at the helm.

According to Henry Kissinger, BHO will be that Man..or according to John Mccain "that one". According to Oprah "the one". According to Rush Limbaugh "12th Imam (Muslim Savior)". According to Sean Hannity "the anointed one". According to Louis Farrakhan, "the Messiah". According to Chris Rock "Dad/Father". According to Jamie Fox, "Lord and Savior".

[Jazzy]

Dreams from my Father (it's a book) was written by Bill Ayers, a famous American Terrorist and backer of Obama.

I possess a copy of this. Have you read it? I bet you haven't, for I know you haven't, having read the book. Lie much?

God is coming very, very soon.

To box your ears, one hopes.

[Jaysen]

I possess a copy of this. Have you read it? I bet you haven't, for I know you haven't, having read the book. Lie much?

I have not read the book. I wanted to until I found out, mixed in the book was a little fiction (according to Bill Ayers). I did see the DVD Dreams from My Real Father.

Lie much? Huh?

What am I lying about?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...te_dreams.html

[Jazzy]

I have not read the book. I wanted to until I found out, mixed in the book was a little fiction (according to Bill Ayers).

"A little fiction"? not as fictional as you, babe.

What am I lying about?

Dreams from my Father (it's a book) was written by Bill Ayers, a famous American Terrorist and backer of Obama.

Was that Bill Ayers, and a throwaway remark, or not? Gives you cause to lie, does it?

The above for a start. But your religion's the finish. Where to start? Tell you what, give me God's address and I'll ring him to ask if he'll hurry up his schedule before your inevitable "reply".

[Jaysen]

I'm just repeating what Bill Ayers has said. He said he wrote the book for Barack Obama.

He was also a part of weather underground.

One must ask, how can this be possible? How does a domestic terrorist write a book for Barack Hussein Obama??

One must ask what are their ties? How do they know each other? All of these things are found in the DVD Dreams from my real father.. The DVD has Barack Obama momma nude, so you know..

[Cairenn]

Jaysen you are not making any sense to me.

[JRBids]

I will test you now lol.. I'm sorry.. Is Obama a Christian? If so.. does a Christian Openly Mock the Holy Bible? Does a Christian call the Koran Holy? Does a Christian say it's okay for people of the same sex to get married? The answer to all of these is yes I know but you know what I'm trying to say here, right?

I'm saying he is not christian, muslim or anything.. He is his own GOD.

He's his own God, LOL.

In answer to your questions above, yes, Obama is a Christian.

Can you post an example where he mocks the Bible?

The Koran IS a Holy Book. Maybe not yours or mine, but it is some peoples'.

I am a Christian and I say it's OK for people of the same sex to get married.

So let's have some of that Bible mocking from Obama now. Come on, admit, you just don't like the guy. That's ok, you know, you don't have to.

[Unregistered]

Lol MikeC is clearly way out of the loop. You've been watching FOX news again, haven't you?

For the lot of you who clearly don't know what Jaysen is saying, let me clear it up for you:

Mike- you keep going on about how this thread has nothing to do with chips coming, it's about WHEN they're coming.
Well, in Jaysen's video, Biden clearly tells the judge 'IN YOUR TENURE'. That is a timeframe buddy. Pay attention.
The video is not only commenting on the fact that RFID will be implanted into humans, it's also making reference to the fact that it maybe VERY SOON.
Instead of mocking Christian's who you feel believe the bible when it suits them, maybe take a critical look at your posts which clearly reveal you'll cling to your ignorant beliefs when it suits YOU.

Secondly, Jaysen is right about global control. This is not about any single government. If you used your right-brain and managed
to tie together aspects of the pharmaceutical industry, hollywood, the music industry, the freemasons, bohemian grove, numerology,
luciferianism, the trilateral commision, the bilderberg group, alice bailey, agenda 21, the removal of pose commitatus, the introduction of marshall law in america,
a repeating pattern of problem-reaction-solution, gun-control, codex alimentarius, as well as many other seemingly disparate but interrelated subjects, you may sound less ignorant in the future.

In fact, Jaysen's relative politeness was starting to annoy me. Despite the fact he KNOWS you're wrong, he continues to entertain your ignorance. Do some research dude.. I can liken it only to a bunch of bush-dwelling savages trying to convince an astronaut the world is flat. The astronaut know's it's round, he has seen it with his own eyes, but he has no way of making the bush-dwelling savages (i.e YOU) understand or believe. He tries being polite - hell, he cares enough to try and share the information he's learned, but the bush-dwelling savages just laugh at the astronaut because they think the idea of a round earth is ridiculous. Hopefully in time you will come to see how wrong you are.

[Mick]

Can you be a bit more specific about what you think we got wrong and what Jaysen got right?

What exactly do you think Biden was saying Roberts would rule on?

[Unregistered]

Whose more scientific? The conspiracy theorist who bases his conclusions on vast amounts of disparate sets of information - never mind that david rockefeller admits to betraying america in his own biography. You have presidents talking openly about a new world order, hundreds of celebrities dying on very peculiar dates, under very strange circumstance. You have an admitted depopulation agenda, companies like monsanto slowly taking control of the worlds crops. The US military setting up hundreds of bases all over the world. America under marshall law, no more pose commitatus. LOL everyone in the world is starting to SEE the changes, and you dismiss everything people are telling you with a rather weak argument that 'alex jones is trying to make money'. That isn't PROOF mate that the conspiracy theorists AREN'T right. The burden of proof rests equally on people who don't believe in a global conspiracy, maybe more so, as sooner or later they WILL realize how ignorant they've been. So before you mouth off about the validity of conspiracy theorists claims, realize that there is less logic to your stance than the guy who has spent thousands of hours earnestly seeking the truth, researching topics that most of you closed-minded sheep dismiss as hokum.

[Mick]

Whose more scientific? The conspiracy theorist who bases his conclusions on vast amounts of disparate sets of information - never mind that david rockefeller admits to betraying america in his own biography. You have presidents talking openly about a new world order, hundreds of celebrities dying on very peculiar dates, under very strange circumstance. You have an admitted depopulation agenda, companies like monsanto slowly taking control of the worlds crops. The US military setting up hundreds of bases all over the world. America under marshall law, no more pose commitatus. LOL everyone in the world is starting to SEE the changes, and you dismiss everything people are telling you with a rather weak argument that 'alex jones is trying to make money'. That isn't PROOF mate that the conspiracy theorists AREN'T right. The burden of proof rests equally on people who don't believe in a global conspiracy, maybe more so, as sooner or later they WILL realize how ignorant they've been. So before you mouth off about the validity of conspiracy theorists claims, realize that there is less logic to your stance than the guy who has spent thousands of hours earnestly seeking the truth, researching topics that most of you closed-minded sheep dismiss as hokum.

Perhaps you'd like to pick the most significant of those and back it up with some evidence?

[Clock]

So your evidence is about celebrities dying on peculiar dates and David Rockefeller? Oh dear! David Rockefeller has said many quotes in which he disagrees with one world governments, by the way:

I don't recall that I have said — and I don't think that I really feel — that we need a world government. We need governments of the world that work together and collaborate. But, I can't imagine that there would be any likelihood — or even that it would be desirable — to have a single government elected by the people of the world. -David Rockefeller.

I think that the best hope for peace and prosperity in the world is greater cooperation among nations, which in turn will be produced if both our governments and the people of our countries travel more and get to know each other better. -David Rockefeller

That quote from his memoirs is from a chapter called Proud Internationalist, Which is is exactly what Rockefeller was, a rich guy who promotes internationalism.

And honestly? Jaysen was using Youtube as a primary source. I'm really sorry, but that's not proof.

[Jazzy]

conspiracy theorist who bases his conclusions on vast amounts of disparate sets of information - the guy who has spent thousands of hours earnestly seeking the truth, researching topics that most of you closed-minded sheep dismiss as hokum.

The Greeks were way ahead of you, Narcissus. When you can get away from your mirror perhaps you'd like to expend some effort, and begin the process of impressing us. This is only a temporary setback, I'm sure.