Chemtrails in the news

[Jay Reynolds]

Interesting how history repeats itself. A Danish-born friend of mine, Kai Lawaetz, held the world's most exquisite private collection of Taino Amerindian objects called Zemis, which he collected over 80 years. I just recognized the parallel.

Archaeology report, year 3010:
The North American Orgonite tribe circa 2000 continued a tradition of placing talismans underground for ceremonial purposes which are unknown. These conical objects of resin, crystal and metal shavings were known as "holy hand grenades", and were produced by "Modern Shamans" and artisans of a sub-culture not fully described in their literature.


The use of "holy hand grenades" follows the Pre-Columbian Taino and Arawak people of the Caribbean who buried stone, shell or wooden objects of conic form in their fields to promote fertility.

[PCWilliams]

This is really catching on, many youtubes describe an easy way to provide "Peace of Mind".
Who knew?

I made my own vinegar video. I had to. It's just too funny.

[Unregistered]

I made my own vinegar video. I had to. It's just too funny.

"Look at those clouds. They weren't here earlier".

loooooool. Love it!

[Jay Reynolds]

During a google news archive search, iI happened to run across this reference to persistent contrails and the effect on climate, from the 1968 Gettysburg Times, February 13, 1968, page 5 column 1. The article mentions how some contrails can persist and create cirrus clouds, and speculates on the possible effects.
It was written close to the time when people were discussing Supersonic Transports(SST's), which was an idea which never came to fruition with the exception of the Concorde.
A remarkable article, titled "Man Despoiler of a Planet".

Hope this link works, pease LMK.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...ontrails&hl=en

This link should let you browse the 2/13/1868 edition:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...ontrails&hl=en

This link should let you browse all issues of this particular newspaper:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...b_mode=2&hl=en

[Mick]

Nice. Here's a capture for posterity, I made it over wide to capture the date.



It's an AP article, and actually appears in several newspapers. In others it was sub-titled with variously degrees of alarm:

• "Fleets of Spaceships May Drown Cities".
• "Possible Disasters are Predicted from Lingering Exhaust Particles"
• "Mankind Is Threatening To Destroy Earth By His Own Actions of Carelessness"
• "Flooded Cities Or A New Ice Age Eyed In Man's Quest For Speed"
• "The Air We Breathe .Rockets, Supersonic Planes Could Warm Climate to Perilous Point"

Here's one illustration from the article, in the "European Stars and Stripes", 1968-02-14

[PCWilliams]

From 1955: (http://tinyurl.com/c62xon5)

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[PCWilliams]

From 3/8/1944: http://tinyurl.com/c22gk3h

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[PCWilliams]

3/4/1943: http://tinyurl.com/btnhjbq

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[PCWilliams]

Good news report from 1980:

[Jay Reynolds]

An interesting demonstration of the role of particles in cloud formation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EneDwu0HrVg

[Jay Reynolds]

New article-
The Unsavory Origins of Chemtrails:

Content from external source:

The chemtrail controversy gathered it’s muster while we many of us slept. We ignored the ideologues gathering muster in the Midwest. We slept while the adherents to a racist ideology created the maelstrom of words that was to become the chemtrail conspiracy theory.

After deciding to find out what a chemtrail is and where this neologism began, I began my research. Employing reporting skills I learned long ago, I double and triple checked my facts, added a healthy dose of skepticism, looked to conventionally trained and recognized authorities for information or found direct quotes to explore this subject. My work led me to a surprising discovery..........(cont. at link)
http://www.waccobb.net/forums/showth...rails&p=147419

This article, by Peggy Day of Marin County, CA, was prompted by a chemtrail believer action to have the Fairfax, CA Town Council approve a resolution against chemtrails:
http://www.pacificsun.com/story.php?story_id=5162

[Mick]

Interesting. Would you say that's all accurate Jay? You know a lot more about the early days than I do.

[Jay Reynolds]

It's good enough, she evidently went to my site, and supercell.org, who was a cohort of mine, and a former believer. She confirmed what I had found.
I'm making some comments at their message board.

[PCWilliams]

New article-
The Unsavory Origins of Chemtrails:


This article, by Peggy Day of Marin County, CA, was prompted by a chemtrail believer action to have the Fairfax, CA Town Council approve a resolution against chemtrails:
http://www.pacificsun.com/story.php?story_id=5162

' ...a pending resolution could make the town an official "chemtrail-free zone." '

I think this is exactly the kind of local laws that need to be passed. This way, when it's alleged that an aircraft has violated this resolution, this issue can finally go to court where the chemtrail believers will have to finally prove their case.

[scombrid]

An interesting demonstration of the role of particles in cloud formation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EneDwu0HrVg

I see the same thing when I'm running on cold clear calm mornings down the trail beside the rail road tracks. After a train goes by, as long as I can smell diesel exhaust, my breath makes more fog. Lets me visualize the particulates that I am inhaling from that exhaust.

[Jay Reynolds]

A recent photo-article by Trutv:

Nobody disputes that when you see an airplane high in the sky, you often see a white trail behind. But are these simply aircraft contrails or -- as increasing numbers of people believe -- are they the tell-tale signs that the government (or maybe a "shadow government") is spraying chemicals into the atmosphere as part of a covert program?

It won't be easy, but it's time we tried to make sense of one of the most intriguing conspiracy theories of recent times…

http://www.trutv.com/conspiracy/biza...s/gallery.html

[PCWilliams]

A recent photo-article by Trutv:


It won't be easy, but it's time we tried to make sense of one of the most intriguing conspiracy theories of recent times…

http://www.trutv.com/conspiracy/biza...s/gallery.html

Ugh. Looks like another Ancient Aliens type of grab at ratings.

[tryblinking]

This is being used in print around San Diego.
It's all kinds of wrong, so much I don't even know where to begin.



source: http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/chemad1.jpg

[firepilot]

I doubt that company "Basic Labs" likes being linked to chemtrail testing. Of course there were not any "off the chart" tests, thats just yet another creation of the chemtrail mind. Does anyone live nearby to that lab or has anyone considered getting them to chime in?

[MikeC]

The Pit Arm tributary test is the only one that hasn't been debunked anywhere that I can see - ther is an "original" document here - http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/l...ludgewater.pdf - and it does seem to actually show a test of water - but it's a different date from that claimed (was done in 2007 not 2008 as claimed around the web), and the elements being tested for do not actually appear on it that I can see.

[Mick]

The Pit Arm tributary test is the only one that hasn't been debunked anywhere that I can see - ther is an "original" document here - http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/l...ludgewater.pdf - and it does seem to actually show a test of water - but it's a different date from that claimed (was done in 2007 not 2008 as claimed around the web), and the elements being tested for do not actually appear on it that I can see.

Here's the full page for that test:



Note the Sludge and the "Water" have about the same values, which makes me thing that the "water" was actually just muddy water, basically sludge. Past experience shows that Dane Wigington has no problem using muddy water, and ignoring the fact that mud is naturally 7% aluminum on average.

http://metabunk.org/files/USFS-labtestsSugarpineCr..pdf
source: http://irritatethestate.net/wp-conte...garpineCr..pdf

[Steve Funk]

Makes me curious. Maybe I will go fishing there. I saved a satellite photo with this inlet in the upper left, and what is probably Wigington's house in the lower right, but it was too big to upload, It will be about a 3 mile paddle from the nearest official launch unless I try to drag my kayak down a steep hill about 1,000 feet.

[Jay Reynolds]

I'm not able to get a phone connection from my location, but would be interested in what the poster's creator says when you call the number:
(530) 941-8872

[firepilot]

I'm not able to get a phone connection from my location, but would be interested in what the poster's creator says when you call the number:
(530) 941-8872

Yeah thats Basic Labs, that the chemmies are including in their chemmie claims, to give some kind of authentication. I wonder if they are aware their name is being used to spread chemtrail bunk?

[MikeC]

No it's not BasicLabs number - that is on the report and their webpage -

Phone: 530 243 7234
Toll Free: 888 511 4804
Fax: 530 243 7494

[Steve Funk]

941 is a cell phone prefix based the small town of Gerber, in Tehama County, but you can take the phone anywhere. It might be Dane Wigington. He wouldn't have a land line.

[Jay Reynolds]

941 is a cell phone prefix based the small town of Gerber, in Tehama County, but you can take the phone anywhere. It might be Dane Wigington. He wouldn't have a land line.

I was able to call that number today. The man who answered with a slightly foreign accent said he had no knowledge of chemtrails.
The ad also sends readers to jeffpress.com as a local contact, which domain is currently not in service.
Acording to this message board posting, the ad at one time did appear in the Redding, CA, newspaper:
http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_d...p?q=1231034590
I am assuming this advertisement was made some years ago and is another case of 'ghost fishing' similar to a lost fisherman's net which continues to wastefully catch unwary fish long after the fisherman has forgotten about it.

Another case of how little it takes to start bunk rolling, yet how long it can continue to virally propagate.

[Jay Reynolds]

http://www.news-press.com/article/20...sey=nav%7Chead

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Necks craned skyward as loopy jet trails stretched over greater Fort Myers Thursday morning.


An air show? No. It’s just Uncle Sam checking out the radar.


“There is no problem with radar coverage, we're just testing it along the west coast of Florida at 24,000 feet and higher,” said Kathleen Bergen. She’s the Atlanta-based spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration.


The local testing began Monday and will end June 1. It’s held on weekdays from 6 a.m. to until 11 a.m., weather permitting.


Depending on atmospheric conditions, we could see more of these cloud-like streaks called contrails.


Contrails form when jet engines’ hot exhaust hits cold, moist air high above the ground. It’s similar to what occurs when you breathe on a winter day, and you can see your own breath.


Sanibel resident and charter pilot Mark Twombly was landing at Page Field about the time of Thursday’s contrail display, but caught nary a glimpse of the jets or the sky art. Said Twombly: “I guess I was looking down, instead of up.”

See photos and video of the strange scene and tell us what you think by joining the conversation

[Jay Reynolds]

http://www.royalgazette.com/article/...LAND/705159991

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Mr Smith explained how he came up with the title of the book and said: “In the summer of 1940 the time of the Battle of Britain mysterious aircraft condensation trails are repeatedly seen over Bermuda. Contrails had never been seen over Bermuda before and are not easily explained.

“Every few days a very highflying aircraft, only detectable by its white contrail, would approach St George’s from the direction of Europe, fly the whole length of the Islands, including the Royal Navy Dockyard, then turn back to St George’s and fly out to sea the way it had come.

“Nobody had an explanation and it was hard to believe that the Germans had an aircraft capable of flying from Europe to Bermuda and back, the distance being so great.

“The British Government said they were not responsible, so did the Americans. The British Prime Minister Winston Churchill expressed his deep concern and ordered the RAF to investigate, but without success.”

In the book much of the Island’s population grow worried that Bermuda could be invaded and rumours spread throughout its 21-square-miles quickly.

But people’s minds are put at ease once the Americans built an airport in the East End and take a role in building and manning Bermuda’s defences.

Bermuda Contrails costs $22.50 and is available at the Bermuda Book Store on Queen Street, the Bookmart on Reid and Front Streets, A.S. Cooper’s and the Bermuda Craft Market in Dockyard.

[Mick]

That Bermuda story is interesting. I wonder just what the original historical basis is though. Smith's book is a novel, set 70 years after the events, so the story might have grown with the telling. It's hard to imagine where such a plane would have come from - mostly likely if it were anything it was US practice flights.

[PCWilliams]

http://www.news-press.com/article/20...sey=nav%7Chead

Content from external source:

Necks craned skyward as loopy jet trails stretched over greater Fort Myers Thursday morning.


An air show? No. It’s just Uncle Sam checking out the radar.


“There is no problem with radar coverage, we're just testing it along the west coast of Florida at 24,000 feet and higher,” said Kathleen Bergen. She’s the Atlanta-based spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration.


The local testing began Monday and will end June 1. It’s held on weekdays from 6 a.m. to until 11 a.m., weather permitting.


Depending on atmospheric conditions, we could see more of these cloud-like streaks called contrails.


Contrails form when jet engines’ hot exhaust hits cold, moist air high above the ground. It’s similar to what occurs when you breathe on a winter day, and you can see your own breath.


Sanibel resident and charter pilot Mark Twombly was landing at Page Field about the time of Thursday’s contrail display, but caught nary a glimpse of the jets or the sky art. Said Twombly: “I guess I was looking down, instead of up.”

See photos and video of the strange scene and tell us what you think by joining the conversation

Sounds like they're flight checking jet ways to ascertain any vertical and/or horizontal limits. Very routine stuff.

[Steve]

http://www.inlander.com/spokane/arti...spiracyrd.html
Newspaper article about chemtrails that we just posted on Jonathan Kays site:
http://amongthetruthers.com/

[MikeC]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/73294...on-cool-trails

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A seasoned reporter will know not to laugh, scowl or immediately slam the phone down.

This will only bring a smile to the theorist's face and a smug sense of satisfaction that they have discovered another conspirator.

The best way to handle conspiracy calls is with agreement.

"Yes. Chemtrails. Terrible isn't it. Evil too," the wily reporter will say, reeling the caller into their fish bin of trust.

"It's the Masons in cahoots with the Stone Cutters. It's the Martians tied up with the CIA," the reporter continues, voice dropping to a whisper.

"They're all in on it here, too," the veteran confides before dropping their whisper to a mere squeak.

"And they're tracking this call now."

Done right and your average theorist is gone in less than 12 seconds. Hurrah.

te he he

[MikeC]

There's an opinion poll on the article above you can particiapte in should you so choose - it is in the local paper subsite of Stuff: http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-dail...-vapour-trails

[Trigger Hippie]

Not exactly chemtrails in the news. More like geoengineering in the news.





Bill Gates backs climate scientists lobbying for large-scale geoengineering


The headline makes it sound like Bill Gates and scientists are advocating large-scale geoengineering programs, doesn't it?

Bill Gates is funding a small group of scientists who advocate RESEARCH into geoengineering. None of the scientists mentioned want to start a large-scale geoengineering program. Ken Caldeira later asked The Guardian to amended the article to reflect that just becuase he advocates research for geoengineering, it does not mean he advocates geoengineering. Unfortunately, the headline was never amended nor were the other fatual errors within the article ever corrected.

For example:

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"Rasch gave evidence at the first Royal Society report on geoengineering 2009 and was a panel member on the 2011 report. He has testified to the US Congress about the need for government funding of large-scale geoengineering. -- The Guardian"

This is misleading. Rasch was called as an expert witness before the Subcommittee on Energy and Environment to inform them on our current scientific understand of geoengineering and with issues involved with implementing such programs. Rasch was not lobbying for geoengineering, he was asked to inform politicians so they may determine if geoengineering warrants attention and to help them develop national and international geoengineering policies.

Content from external source:

"In addition to seeking an understanding of the science behind the different geoengineering technologies, policymakers are considering policies and strategies for addressing geoengineering at the national and international levels. To date, there is limited federal involvement in, or oversight of, geoengineering. --Geoengineering: Governance and Technology Policy"

It's almost like the guardian wants us to believe scientists are desperate to start geoengineering. The fact is most scientists consider reducing CO2 emissions as the best course of action.

[Jay Reynolds]

Interesting tactic to effect change using social media, leveraging ordinary citizen participation:
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012...sm-trolls/all/

[Trigger Hippie]

(Just a followup to post #115 above about The Guardian's articles on geoengineering...)

Taken from the Geoengineering Google Group, Ken Caldeira reprimands The Guardian for misrepresenting and sensationalizing his stance on geoengineering... not too flattering I'm afraid.

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Then, the Guardian reporter, in order to increase the titillation factor of what he fears might be a rather mundane story, decides to blur the distinction between advocating poisoning our water supply and researching chemotherapy, and decides to publish an expose about how a billionaire tycoon and his mad scientists are poison advocates, giving the impression if not out-rightly saying that they seek to profit off of putting poison in your drinking water.

I think the above allegory reflects how I see the Guardian as handling this matter. The Guardian, it seems, has chosen to titillate rather than to inform.

And in so doing, the Guardian does me and my colleagues personal harm. I get phone calls or emails nearly every day from nutters who think that I am spraying something in the sky. They have published my home address on the web, much the way doctors who perform abortions here in the US have had their home addresses posted on the web. The Guardian is inciting a bunch of nuts who think the doctors studying chemotherapy need to be stopped before they can poison us all. There is an issue of personal safety here.

Here's a link to an exchange of emails between Ken Caldeira and Guardian editor Chriss Elliot and Guardian reporter John Vidal.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...ng/gvQHIA8IKu4

[FreiZeitGeist]

well... this is more "Cloudseeding in the news".

But you know it, some people just doesnt want to know the difference. Our German Chemtrail-Citizensmovement presented it as "the evidence"

It explains the basics of cloudseeding and hail-protection very well in just about 5 minutes...

[Sickyellcell]

Excellent articles!

Ive been posting here,now I see links are allowed I want to put some up soon from youtube.
One that really is an attention grabber is where a citizen goes to an industrial/airport and there sits tanks of chemicals
of all sorts that are being added to the fuel tankers nearbye.
The gentleman has a hidden cam and starts interviewing the Dispatch man slowly but surely he starts admitting and opening up to the
fact that he is sponsored by the govt to chem the skies under the guise that it helps the ozone layer and their communication.

Then he goes on to talking about a local drought and how they have raised rainfall 3=5% Anyone know this video Im talking about?If so please link it.
When I first seen it ,my mind was blown about how this guy let the cat out of the bag soon as he got comfy and thought no one else was around or could
hear what he was saying.

Someone mentioned Timetravel
http://www.educatinghumanity.com/201...-who-time.html

This is the garbage they feed the public.
Ancient aliens is on right now talking about timelight curves and frame dragging which is the heart of time manipulation.But we have had accusations of aother type of travel since the 60s.
Exciting lasers in a field on chemicals and electifying it with femominal amounts of energy and magnetism creates a field they can go into if they have the correct applications "computer fed" .

They are learning to tap into the free energy which is the framedragging,where there is more free energy than they ever could have imagined.
Remember were 50 years ahead of anything that is told to the public.

China is rumored to be already using time manipulation in the public domain by a reliable source,Mike Anderson which I spent a few google moments looking into but only chinese hits,If anyone speaks chinese,there is information maybe they can share what they find.

Back to the main topic..Why are people not accepting the chemtrails?

FOR GODS SAKE THEY HAVE ADMITTED TO LAYING SILVER OXIDE AND BORIUM?SO THEY CAN COMMINUCATE WITH THE SATTELITES PROPERLY 24/7. All so you can chit chat on your cell phone at 99c a minute with 3 bars so you dont bitxch about having no signal.
LOL
Actually,they are more concerned about comm with underwater subs.
I will start saving the documents I refer to cause I see people are linking like crazy.

FINALLY Bill gates is dumping money into something that is already been mastered.Buying old technology.It makes no sense,unless he plans on using geoengineering in tandom with his forced innoculations to control population.
He is on a mission trying to help control population for the last few years and he proposes that feeding the people in africa will help lower the population in one lecture.When theres reported documents that the innoculations are sterilizing the females with advanced chemistry.
This isnt anything new to the usa,just like giving the indians blankets filled with small pox

wikipedia>>>June 29, 1763, a week after the siege began, Bouquet was preparing to lead an expedition to relieve Fort Pitt when he received a letter from Amherst making the following proposal: "Could it not be contrived to send the smallpox among the disaffected tribes of Indians? We must on this occasion use every stratagem in our power to reduce them." [1]

Bouquet agreed, writing back to Amherst on July 13, 1763: "I will try to inoculate the bastards with some blankets that may fall into their hands, and take care not to get the disease myself." Amherst responded favorably on July 16, 1763: "You will do well to inoculate the Indians by means of blankets, as well as every other method that can serve to extirpate this execrable race."[2]

Im sick of the evil in this world>and the people who try to protect the evil doers.

THE POPULATION MUST BE CONTAINED! IMO Chemtrails are the most effective way to spread a new disease which will devistate the world,the elite and military will already be innoculated and the rest of us will be going into those fema coffins.The question is when.

Im way off topic but its all relitive to the subject.

[Jay Reynolds]

Sounds sort of crazy to me.