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    Not reallly to laugh at - Gang Stalking

    I ran across this and thought I might share it. If you are short of time don't waste it here.
    If you don't mind heading down into a very deep rabbit hole this is for you.

    There is an organization for people who believe they are getting gang-stalked, tortured by electronics, and basically being made miserable by vast yet shadowy organizations.

    This is extreme paranoia of the most extreme kind. Just to let you know what some public officials end up dealing with, here are some transcripts:
    http://www.justiceforallcitizens.com...ingassist.html

    I once spoke with a public official in New Mexico's Dep of Environmental Quality who related that he had to deal with people like this over chemtrails.............

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    As is this person on the Icke forums.

    It's actually quite sad. There are many un-treated people out there, who are in need of doctor supervision.
    Unfortunately, many of them are afraid of established doctors and other institutional assistance.

    I recently had a neighbor flip-out...screaming and throwing things. He left his empty medication bottles in my trash can. I finally had to call the police hoping for a 5150 (72 hour hospital evaluation), and that's exactly what they did.
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    Ho boy. A quick google uncovers more from the 'Just for All Citizens' Connie Marshall...

    http://thevillevoice.com/2010/12/20/connie-marshall-talks-sexytime-before-council/

    She actually managed to get a touch over 1000 votes in the 2010 Louisville mayoral election.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisvi...election,_2010

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    New York Times article....Sharing Their Demons on the Web
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    Excellent find, that NYT article. I'm glad that psychologists ae looking at this. Reminds me a lot of the morgellons people. I'm definitely aware that these social media sites encourage these ideas. I question any value in them that would help, it's mostly reinforcement and the recruiting aspect is always there waiting for new marks to suck in. Sites like morgellonswatch might help them to get out or avoid being drawn into the vortex, but the rest are just "join me" clubs.

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    In a sense the "gang-stalking" paranoia is the extreme CTer's nightmare, taken to the nth degree, or perhaps taken to a new twisted reality.
    There also might be an element of desire for attention, where they will feel "targeted" (selected as a target)....and the online forums allow the affected a place to be coddled, and a place to be "understood" when nearly everyone else says their imagination is just running wild. As the doctors in the article point to, this does little to help reduce their paranoia.
    Lighter versions of this we have all seen, like when some "chemtrail" believers claim, "they're targeting my area, they spray right across the sun over my house", or perhaps the whole CT experience where they believe in the conspiracy in the face of zero evidence to support their claims (and the various websites that help reinforce those fears).
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    This "gang stalking" mindset is part of a spectrum of paranoia and delusions of reference that reaches all the way from the almost reasonable (the PTB have experimented on people) to the unreal (aliens have planted the messiah child in me and are controlling my thoughts), with a wide variety in between.

    The late Ted Gundersun, who was briefly a chemtrail promoter, was somewhat involved in the Gang Stalking community see:

    http://www.randomcollection.info/gunderson.pdf

    And some people with Morgellons become convinced they have "chips" implanted in them for some monitoring or experimenting reason. These chips appear to be unusual looking hexagonal crystals, but are actually common household hexagonal cut glitter.

    http://www.rense.com/general87/mordgg.htm

    A number of people across the country are reporting instances of discovering tiny little "specks of glitter" coming from their skin. So far, all of the people reporting these tiny 'crystals' are also afflicted with what we have come to know as Morgellon's disease. ...
    Current research on these hexagoal crystal-like artifacts include areas such as silica and cellulose, protein crystals created from within the human body, crystal biosensors, RFID chips, photonic crystals/eletromagnetic fields, scalar weapons, fiber optic nano-probes, silicon wafers, silicon photonic nanostructures, liquid crystalline and probably the most interesting so far, the piezoelectric crystals which are antibody specific and self-assemble layer by layer.
    What is causing humans, for the first tme in history, to discover specks of a glittering substance, hexagonal in shape, in their skin?
    Could it be part of this man-made Morgellon's atrocity which is enveloping the planet, even as you read this?
    Towards the stranger end of the spectrum these are not things that can be debunked for affected individual by reasoned discussion over the internet. When I was debunking morgellons I vary rarely got thank-you notes from people who thought they had it, but I'd convinced otherwise. But I DID get several thank-you's from the friends, relatives, and caregivers of those people. Even from young people whose had a parent who had half convinced them they could see dancing fibers coming from their skin.

    Compare that with the more tangible chemtrails, where I think there's been far more actual conversions - as people can be convinced of the reality of chemtrails simply by being ill-informed about the weather.

    I also got far more hatred and thread from the Morgellons community than the chemtrail community, which is one reason why I don't really go there any more. It also the reason I have no real desire to address gang-stalking.

    In areas where there is major mental illness, the debunker must tread very carefully.

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    Weatherman714, aka Paul Harris 9from the debunkatorium website) would fit into this exactly. He insists that the USAF targets him to steal snow, that the police follow him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Reynolds View Post
    Excellent find, that NYT article. I'm glad that psychologists ae looking at this. Reminds me a lot of the morgellons people. I'm definitely aware that these social media sites encourage these ideas. I question any value in them that would help, it's mostly reinforcement and the recruiting aspect is always there waiting for new marks to suck in. Sites like morgellonswatch might help them to get out or avoid being drawn into the vortex, but the rest are just "join me" clubs.
    I, too, fail to see how reinforcing these peoples delusions can be of any benefit. Without psychiatric help, how long will it be until Connie Marshall grievously injures herself or someone else. On her website, she states that she nearly ran over a police officer, recently, while resisting arrest. My question is, why hasn't she been committed yet?
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    Oh wow! I don't know even know what to make of all this stuff, but she could provide better evidence as well; especially, if her computer has interference with the things she claims. She would say that there would pop-ups that says, "N word gets killed LMPD." While she working on her laptop, she would have stuff be moving around and deleted. If that was happening, wouldn't you provide a video camera or print screen to show that it was happening. There's lots and lots of stuff she posted up. Some of her phone calls are hard to hear as well. Hmm....I don't even know anymore. (I did laugh when she kept ending her conversation with, "I got you on tape." )
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    There is a website, 'whatreallyhappened" that has been spamming Craiglist with the gang stalking story line that links back to their website, whatreallyhappened.com. Posting the same story in dozens of cities forums trying to generate traffic for their own website.



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    oooh thanks, I LOVE this stuff!

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    A false belief in "Gang Stalking" is an old mental illness. Here's an account of one from the 1870s:

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    Yet it was not until the murder trial, held in early April, that the full extent of Doctor Minor’s illness became starkly apparent. Among the score of witnesses who appeared before the lord chief justice in the court at Kingston Assizes—for this was Surrey’s jurisdiction still, not London’s—three of them told a stunned courtroom what they knew of the sad captain.

    The London police, for a start, admitted that they were already somewhat acquainted with him, and that for some time before the murder had known that they had a troubled man living in their midst. A Scotland Yard detective named Williamson testified that Minor had come to the Yard three months earlier, complaining that men were coming to his rooms at night, trying to poison him. He thought that they were members of the Fenian Brotherhood—militant Irish nationalists—and they were bent on breaking into his lodgings, hiding in the roof rafters, slipping through the windows.

    He made such allegations several times, said Williamson; shortly before Christmas, Minor had even persuaded the commissioner of police in New Haven to write a letter to the Yard, underlining the fears that Minor felt. Even after the doctor moved to Tennison Street, he kept in touch with Williamson—on January 12, 1872, he wrote that he had been drugged and was afraid that the Fenians were planning to murder him and make it look as though his death had been a suicide.

    A classic cry for help, one might think today. But an exasperated Superintendent Williamson did nothing and told no one, beyond noting with some contempt in his logbook that Minor was clearly—and this was the first use of the word to describe the hapless American—insane.

    Then came a witness who had something very curious to offer from his observations of Doctor Minor during the time the American was held on remand in the cells at Horsemonger Lane.

    The witness, whose name was William Dennis, was a member of a profession that has long since receded from modern memory: He was what was called a “Bethlem watcher.” Usually he was employed at London’s Bethlehem Hospital for the Insane—such a dreadful place that the name has given us the word bedlam—where his duties included watching the prisoner-patients through the night to make sure that they behaved themselves and did not try to cheat justice by committing suicide. He had been seconded to the Horsemonger Lane Jail in mid-February, he said, to watch the nocturnal activities of the strange visitor. He had watched him, he testified, for twenty-four nights.

    It was a most curious and disturbing experience, Dennis told the jury. Each morning Doctor Minor would awake and immediately accuse him of having been paid by someone specifically to molest him while he slept. Then he would spit, dozens of times, as though trying to remove something that had been put into his mouth. He would next leap from his bed and scrabble about underneath it, looking for people who, he insisted, had hidden there and were planning to annoy him. Dennis told his superior, the prison surgeon, that he was quite certain William Minor was mad.

    From the police interrogation notes came the evidence of an imagined motive for the crime—and with them a further indication of Doctor Minor’s patent instability. Each night, Minor had told his questioners, unknown men—often lower-class, often Irish—would come to his room while he was sleeping. They would maltreat him; they would violate him in ways he could not possibly describe. For months, ever since these nocturnal visitors had begun to torment him, he had taken to sleeping with his Colt service revolver, loaded with five cartridges, beneath his pillow.

    On the night in question he awoke with a start, certain that a man was standing in the shadows at the foot of his bed. He reached under the pillow for his gun; the man saw him and took to his heels, running down the stairs and out of the house. Minor followed him as fast as he could, saw a man running down into Belvedere Road, was certain that this was the intruder, shouted at him, then fired four times, until he had hit him and the man lay still, unable to harm him further.

    The court listened in silence. The landlady shook her head. No one could get into her house at night without a key, she had said. Everyone slept very lightly; there could not have been an intruder. And as final confirmation the court then heard from the prisoner’s stepbrother, George Minor. It had been a nightmare, said George, having brother William staying in the family house in New Haven. Every morning he would accuse people of trying to break into his room the night before, trying to molest him. He was being persecuted. Evil men were trying to insert metallic biscuits, coated with poison, in his mouth. They were in league with others who hid in the attic, came down at night while he was asleep, and treated him foully.

    Winchester, Simon (2009-10-13). The Professor and the Madman (P.S.) (Kindle Locations 335-346). Harper Perennial. Kindle Edition.

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    I've come across too many people like that on FB, finding other people to validate their delusions.

    Here's one documenting his torture:


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    It's generally unproductive to engage such people. When they come here, they generally end up in the "Off-topic and Rambles" section.

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    I never engage them, but I like to stalk them.

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