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    Another comment from one of the versions of What in the World Are They Spraying? on YouTube:
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Size:  254.3 KBHere's a comment from a frequent contributor of violent comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRBids View Post
    Here's a comment from a frequent contributor of violent comments.
    That is sad to see. From her youtube page, she has a normal looking family but says some very bad things. The chemtrails hoax has made some people go mad, it seems. Some of the promoters are to blame for this, it doesn't just happen by people looking up and starting to feel like killing somebody. No, that's not the way this has gone down, they had to be talked into having such a rage. Very saddening.
    "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain

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    Wow- finally here from the other site.

    I thought I would mention that I have been shot at and hit but it was a small caliber weapon and did very little damage. This was some years ago in Mississippi and the people doing the shooting thought I had bags of cash on board. They wanted to shoot the plane down to get the cash. No cash, just cancelled checks and how would cash survive a fiery crash anyway?

    I have also been lasered outside of Chicago. It was a green laser and luckily we were over ten thousand feet so it didn't bother us.

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    awakeining_lifeforce's thread moved to:

    http://metabunk.org/threads/1107-awa...emtrail-theory

    And a.l. unbanned.

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    Tankerenemy has purloined a video on a fuel dump for his own purposes. He does seem to attract some virulent followers.

    The bogus video including false info on where it happened and the assertation that fuel dumping cannot happen over built up areas. It can in an emergency.

    http://youtu.be/gFCS_OdDsJw

    And the original which happened in 2010.

    http://youtu.be/uoUBWEqPu0Q

    Here are some of the comments:

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    It is a capital Mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sherlock Holmes

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWCobra View Post
    Tankerenemy has purloined a video on a fuel dump for his own purposes. He does seem to attract some virulent followers.
    I posted his comment, but he is not allowing comments to be seen without approval. Deliberate deception, for sure.
    "That was Continental Airlines Flight 9 to Tokyo, a 777 with 275 passengers on board making a fuel dump before an emergency landing at Newark, NJ. Notice how the landing gear wouldn't come up, they had to return to fix it. This was all over the news and it is wrong to misuse a video this way. Shame on you who are making threats and you who try to coerce them into doing so by lying about a well known event anyone can google."
    "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Reynolds View Post
    I posted his comment, but he is not allowing comments to be seen without approval. Deliberate deception, for sure.
    "That was Continental Airlines Flight 9 to Tokyo, a 777 with 275 passengers on board making a fuel dump before an emergency landing at Newark, NJ. Notice how the landing gear wouldn't come up, they had to return to fix it. This was all over the news and it is wrong to misuse a video this way. Shame on you who are making threats and you who try to coerce them into doing so by lying about a well known event anyone can google."
    Tankerenemy is a nasty piece of work. There are few people get or deserve a website devoted entirely to his evil deeds as uncovered by his many enemies. He deserves a sticky thread here.

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    Another one in the comments of the the YouTube video, "What in the World Are They Spraying":
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    Tankerenemy is a true snake peddler. Should read some of his textual exchanges with usaffekc10a when the latter posted a video to debunk one of his own chemtrail spoofs. Tanker's own words completely betrays him as a fraud.

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    Tankerenemy also screens the comments sections of his videos. Threats to shoot down aircraft are obviously acceptable.
    It is a capital Mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - Sherlock Holmes

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWCobra View Post
    Tankerenemy also screens the comments sections of his videos. Threats to shoot down aircraft are obviously acceptable.
    I encourage all to flag this video as I did, and explain the situation in your commentary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Reynolds
    The channel owner is moderating all comments and has allowed comments by PrekiFromPoland, Craighibbs, and antigovlivefree inciting violence. The video was ripped from http://youtu.be/uoUBWEqPu0Q
    and was a jet during an emergency, not the situation described by tankerenemy. Channel owner's comment moderation chose to allow violence to be incited. TOS violation. Community Guideline violation.
    "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Reynolds View Post
    I encourage all to flag this video as I did, and explain the situation in your commentary.
    It's the right thing to do of course, but you can guarantee that this will be seen as 'them' interfering a censoring chemtrail 'proof' in the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattnik View Post
    It's the right thing to do of course, but you can guarantee that this will be seen as 'them' interfering a censoring chemtrail 'proof' in the media.
    Yes, it's the right thing to do. I also notified the original video maker of the fact that his video has been stolen and is being used under false pretenses. I am doing this only after 'tankerenemy' was fully informed of the facts and made a decision to continue the deception. There has been no effort to censor anything, only to correct the record and stop incitement.

    'Tankerenemy' chose to both continue a deception and to accept (through selective moderation) the public posting of threats on his channel, and deletion of my comment which exposed his deception. He has engaged in these two practices before and it is time to clean it up.
    "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain

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    Related, people do sometimes follow through with similar threats:http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Ran...188982711.html
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    According to court records, a crop-dusting pilot flew over property adjacent to Riley's Flying Lead Ranch around midday on Feb. 22, 2008. Riley fired multiple times on the aircraft, striking and nearly severing the rudder cable and striking a wing strut.Court records showed Riley had previously threatened the owner of the company that leased the plane, saying that he would shoot down any plane flying over the ranch.

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    Do they even realize their pages are public? I hope we don't see this person on the news one night.

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    Another threat incited by Tankerenemy's purloined video which falsely claims to be taken in London.

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    Yet another threat from the London low altitude chemtrails video by Tankerenemy :

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMrLukino
    we buy bazooka instead of staying here to get us for fools
    Tankerenemy has been informed that his video shows Continental Airlines Flight 9 to Tokyo, a 777 with 275 passengers on board making a fuel dump before an emergency landing at Newark, NJ.
    "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain

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    Two for one:

    I don't know what is more ignorant. The ridiculous statement this "low flying chembomber" is in any way CLOSE to the paraglider:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbqI_...ature=youtu.be


    Or that someone believes it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Reynolds View Post
    Another threat incited by Tankerenemy's purloined video which falsely claims to be taken in London.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Reynolds View Post
    Yet another threat from the London low altitude chemtrails video by Tankerenemy :

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    Tankerenemy has been informed that his video shows Continental Airlines Flight 9 to Tokyo, a 777 with 275 passengers on board making a fuel dump before an emergency landing at Newark, NJ.
    Slightly off topic but when I have seen this linked on Facebook I have been replying with a news article with the original Yiutube embedded http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...maged_tir.html It has had a few people questioning Tankerenemy. I hope it may be of use to others :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggerdave View Post
    Slightly off topic but when I have seen this linked on Facebook I have been replying with a news article with the original Yiutube embedded http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...maged_tir.html It has had a few people questioning Tankerenemy. I hope it may be of use to others :-)
    I think that we should refer to this "Tankerenemy" by his real name. Rosario Marcianò. Someone who creates and sustains hoax videos and allows sustained deliberate posting of threats needs to be called out by name and not be allowed to hide behind some pseudonym.
    "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Reynolds View Post
    I think that we should refer to this "Tankerenemy" by his real name. Rosario Marcianò. Someone who creates and sustains hoax videos and allows sustained deliberate posting of threats needs to be called out by name and not be allowed to hide behind some pseudonym.
    Don't mean to make light of this, but in the link...

    ("faccia di culo" means "ass-face")

    Priceless.



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    Gosh, they haven't seen a conspiracy theory they didn't like

    http://wewillblowyourmind.blogspot.c...-us-elite.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairenn View Post
    Gosh, they haven't seen a conspiracy theory they didn't like

    http://wewillblowyourmind.blogspot.c...-us-elite.html
    I think it's called 'hedging your bets', one of them MUST be true.

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    The Chemtrails over NZ group seems to have become particularly unhinged over the last few weeks.

    In this case, they try to assert the NZ government 'knew' about a chemtrail operation that led to an outbreak of flu. Of course, what the released documents show is that a member of the public claimed that some contrails were in fact chemtrails, and that there was an unconnected outbreak of flu 10 days later (not the day after the spraying, mind, or the day after that, but ten days later). Reading through the documents (all available here, in a particularly unhelpful flash format) there are several instances where the types of spraying that is being claimed is specifically denied by the powers-that-be. (I should also point out, there is some real comedy gold in those documents -- the letters that get sent to various government departments sometimes beggar belief).

    As well as that, the whole group seems to be suffering some sort of shared delusion with regards to clouds. They're constantly posting pictures of completely normal cloud forms (cirrocumulus and stratocumlus in particular seem to get them wound up), and labelling it as 'proof' of 'chemclouds'. Someone last week helpfully posted some photos from some cloud identification books to help them out, but, surprise surprise, those pictures were deleted, the user banned and labelled a disinformation agent. <Sigh>.

    The same Toni Anne Smith advocating violence in the post above also took her outrage over to the Cloud Appreciation Society, posted some pictures of innocuous clouds, with the all-to-be expected result that, having been told these clouds were quite normal and have been categorised with their current names since the 19th century, the Cloud Appreciation Society are now also an outlet for disinformation. <Deeper sigh>.

    (I must admit, I was one of those over at the CAS trying to point Toni in the correct direction with regards to cloud identification, to no avail).

    It must be tiring to live a life where you're constantly outraged and frightened by the appearance of clouds.

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    It must be tiring to live a life where you're constantly outraged and frightened by the appearance of clouds.
    Indeed, look at what it's done to this guy, youtuber superdeltabravo1.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJJ8tOtgp8

    I'm posting it here because he seems to be getting more and more unhinged by the day and blaming any scapegoat he can find for all his problems. When he writes in the vids description of having all the info he needs to exact justice and is asking for money, I wonder what he really means. He sounds pretty desperate with nothing to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solrey View Post
    Indeed, look at what it's done to this guy, youtuber superdeltabravo1.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJJ8tOtgp8

    I'm posting it here because he seems to be getting more and more unhinged by the day and blaming any scapegoat he can find for all his problems. When he writes in the vids description of having all the info he needs to exact justice and is asking for money, I wonder what he really means. He sounds pretty desperate with nothing to lose.
    For his description for reference:
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    Open short description.
    I suppose it was wrong of me to assume most, if not all, of you understood that I live in Louisiana & have dedicated the past 4 years of my life trying to find & verify Truth. I have indeed found it yet have been made to endure the ongoing BP debacle, the Volatile Organic Compounds, Hydrocarbons, Methane Gas, Craig Venter's "SYNTHIA", Gulf Blue Flu & NOW the SINKHOLE FROM HELL!. As you ALL know & have heard multiple credible sources say, I REALLY NEED TO GET OUT OF HERE but I have unfinished Business; the task of getting the results of all I have come to KNOW IN YOUR HANDS. Please watch this and the ensuing videos. I NEED your help - something I have NEVER ASKED of anyone in all my life BUT the Good News IS I have all the info needed to exact Justice - ALL cross-referenced & verified.


    and from 26 minutes ago:
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    I'm not afraid Kat! Not at all. I have done no wrong. It is I/ WE that have been wronged. These traitors & glorified dirtbags will reap their just rewards.

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    The conspiracy theories about the oil spill have been my focus for a long time.

    They are SURE that Synthia was used on the oil spill. Their 'proof' is someone saying that they found a new bacteria.

    I will try to post more on that tonight on the oil spill thread.

    Is anyone interested in any info on the 'sinkhold from hell'. I know some about that also.
    "Knowledge is the antidote for fear."

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    Pretty sure this counts

    On Chemtrail Awareness https://www.facebook.com/ExposingChe...ref=ts&fref=ts

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudspotter View Post
    Pretty sure this counts

    On Chemtrail Awareness https://www.facebook.com/ExposingChe...ref=ts&fref=ts

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    If you have to ask, you can't afford it!

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    Here are a couple of comments from youtube user spencerjamescunningh.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/spencerjamescunningh

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    I have been advocating Poison dumping planes be taken out of the sky for a Long time. Your Polite version, is just That. I wont ask why you didnt edit in the sickness, disease & death of Innocent citizens around the globe from the Planes dumping poison barium, strontium & Aluminum along with MANY other Bio Viral Poison to all life on earth but I am with you & have been Called to Duty to Eliminate this. What your VERY Next step,.. & When?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dslvUyZaSps

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    God bless you.. we need to take these planes DOWN! ,.. ~The time is NOW!

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    Might as well include this threatening comment directed towards Dr. David Keith from the same Youtuber above as well:

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    Last edited by Jay Reynolds; February 17th, 2013 at 08:01 AM.
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    Decided to search on twitter to see if this has died down any. Well, no not really. It took seconds of scrolling for this to show up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessa Celery View Post
    Decided to search on twitter to see if this has died down any. Well, no not really. It took seconds of scrolling for this to show up
    This was also retweeted by Scott Mcphail ( @scottymac769 ) and Sam Coupe ( @Gothic_mother )

    Iain Carstairs has a website called "Science and Religion"[/URL]. He also does artwork in his home town of Bedford, England.

    I see he has a recent article about chemtrails, which deserves a thread of its own.
    Last edited by Jay Reynolds; March 1st, 2013 at 05:32 PM.
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    Not chemtrails sorry but another clear threat - after a hugely ignorant rant - from Gnarly Carly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billzilla View Post
    Not chemtrails sorry but another clear threat - after a hugely ignorant rant - from Gnarly Carly.
    She must have selective vision, there are three towers clearly visible just west of where she's referencing:

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvnk08 View Post
    She must have selective vision ...
    It's safe to assume that, yes. Google Earth also isn't always completely up to date, the photos can be many months old. For example I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday about his new house and I had a look on GE to see where it was. Turned out I'd driven up that exact road before a week or two earlier and it was totally different to what GE was showing. He's been there a year and the road he's on a bit longer as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billzilla View Post
    Google Earth also isn't always completely up to date, the photos can be many months old.
    Years, even. The most recent imagery shown for the neighborhood where I grew up is still from 2007. But in this case, it appears that she's looking at the wrong part of the hill in the pictures she posted.

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