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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Reynolds View Post
    I see that Danny's find is still up on Michael J. Murphy's Facebook page:
    http://www.facebook.com/WhatintheWorldAreTheySpraying

    Facebook says they will remove support for violent organizations:
    http://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=145459065538793
    It fell off the front page, but Michael J. Murphy let the threat stand as written.
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    Hi Guys,

    I am trying to talk a little sense into some of these guys.. without a lot of success. I am a QF A330 captain and up till now was slightly amused by the chemtrailers, tight up until they started threatening people like myself.

    I don't wish to offend anyone here, but the defining characteristic of "chemtrailers" seems to be an abiding ability to believe something they have no personal proof of... somewhat akin to fundamentalists of all religious persuasions.

    I am having another conversation on this youtube thread...

    http://youtu.be/fUfzUJYN38M

    to say it is bizarre is an understatement. However I have put together some evidence that proves I am who I say I am, I will let you know if they show any interest. If they do accept it I plan to put an offer to them... provided they pay... to fly a Biz-jet into the contrail of the QF64 to take samples. I fully expect them to decline... but will advise if they don't.

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    If you do this, Mike, be sure to document the event as well as possible, in HD video. If this is accomplished, it will be a ground-breaking event that many thousands have spoken of but none have accomplished. Cheers to you, and let us know how this plays out.
    "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWCobra View Post
    Hi Guys ....
    Hi Mike.
    I'm an ex-Air Atlanta Icelandic 747 Captain and would be happy to help you there if you're interested.
    BTW, did you ever work with Richard Tainch? He was on furlough with us in AAI for a while. I flew with him a few times when I was an FO.

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    Hi Bill. Yes I know Richard. He is still on the A330 as a captain. (Tainsh btw).

    Good to know there is some sanity and support in the world. I posted some comments on Robert Hoogenboom's channel when he asked to confirm my identity. He went quiet for a few weeks, like PK, then as PK resurfaced with another QF63 video he put in an uncomplimentary comment in about pilots, I assume he means me. I fully expect to never convert the hard core, but there seems to be a few doubters there who will listen to a scientific explanantion of what they are seeing.

    What I would like to hear from people is whether you think a video made during a walkaround check would be useful. We do one every flight and a closeup of the wings showing the fact that there are no nozzles and vents (apart from the fuel dump system on some aircraft) may be helpful, particularly if it is aimed at chemmies. (Sorry for the extra bit here Mick, finger trouble!)
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    Here's a cool walkaround check video, done with a camera attached to a flashlight


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    Found on Chemtrails Exposed FB

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    Does pointing laser at them do anything?
    Because I set a laser up over night and pointed it at the moon, the very next morning some Government police showed up at my door, said "You don't want us to come back, don't do that again!" really pissy like. So what the hell do lasers do they don't like?


    LikeUnlike · · Thursday at 14:49

      • Marcel Marceau Pointing at who or what?Thursday at 15:12 · LikeUnlike
      • Robert Denham BUT ..ONLY chemtrail planes...no contails planes...that's got my grandma on there lolThursday at 15:19 · LikeUnlike
      • Desmond Oldershaw Ya pointing lasers at planes will get you arrested. It can blind the pilots.Thursday at 18:48 · LikeUnlike
      • Robert Denham I could care less about the vision of a pilot who's responsible for dumping chemtrails on us.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLAThursday at 20:20 · LikeUnlike
      • Robert Denham Those people should be sitting on death row...Thursday at 20:23










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    Print Yourname if you relly ,truly belive thay are trying to kill you ...well shoot back ,hello?19 March at 20:37 · LikeUnlike

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    please could you do some more research because I got many evident obe´servetion in my place about radiation in relationship to flightmovements, and beta monitoring off in europe and on spraying days in TX I suffered from attacks...think this shortened my lifetime...please we got both same symptoms me and iondetox and who else...every body to afraid about it ... in germany truth seems to be unable to break mainstream beliefs...please look for chanel rabiataclara in ut.

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    Maybe you could post these observations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny55 View Post
    Another one on WITWATS FB Page

    What in the World Are They Spraying?


    See link for more info about art contest: http://truthmediaproductions.blogspo...t-contest.html

    "Why in the World are They Spraying?" Official Trailer
    Coming Fall 2012: "Why in the World are They Spraying? Produced by the Originator and Co-Producer of "What in the World are They Spraying?" Michael J. Murphy...



    Share · Friday at 00:58 ·


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      • Angela Rios WHO is spraying?? WHY isn't the EPA doing anything about it? I wrote them a letter and they denied that chemtrails exist!!!Friday at 12:18 · 1





      • Misty Stinson time to shoot them out of the sky and prove it to the world.. the government is doing it, so they lie about it.3 hours ago




    I see that Misty Stinson's suggestion that planes be shot down still remains on Michael J. Murphy's Facebook page:
    http://www.facebook.com/WhatintheWor...23895277709791

    He doesn't care if his followers make terrorist threats....
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    http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=658

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    Eric Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
    Talked with a PILOTE flying for SAS Scandinavian Airline. He told me that he actually did not know about this. Never crossed his mind but also told me that the contrails could not last the whole day. max 30 / 60 minutes under very special conditions. He’s been flying for 20 some years.
    Here in Oppland Norway they stay the whole day. On the south coast where my parents live you never see it. Only normal contrails that goes away after a few minutes.
    Before you bullshit this, be sure that you know the facts.
    Where can I get a launcher to blow that shit out of the sky ??????????

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    Well, I live in Norway, on the west coast in the neighbour county to Oppland, Mřre og Romsdal.
    I've travelled through Oppland, and I can happily assure you that (just like my previous home of the UK) contrails the length of the country persist for hours and spread naturally as expected. Infact, unlike many countries, the airspace here has so few cross flights that it can sometimes be hours before another plane flies over at cruise, let alone leaves another trail. I'm not sure how that would help any fictitious spraying agenda.
    Last edited by tryblinking; April 9th, 2012 at 10:54 PM.
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    Another one from Chemtrails Kill facebook page

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    "Roxy Lopez This is the TRUTH! Bring down the matrix!22 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1

    Jason Foust Their house of cards is coming down! 21 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1



    Bruce Pinkney A warning shot right between the eyes would maybe wake these highly intelligent people up. A showdown is due !

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    From Michael J. Murphy's "What In the World Are They Spraying" facebook page, in response to his posting about the "Maui Clean Skies Ordinance"
    this is the first response to the posting, and another threatin the third response, both five hours old now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike D Ypsidelic
    you'll need anti-aircraft capabilities for enforcement, as military programs are not likely to be affected by local initiatives.
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    Keiko Yamada, Brooke Prim and 28 others like this..

    2.Lauren Hussain it looks like a good bill, but the penalties are not nearly severe enough considering the damage these aircraft are doing. the sprayers can also easily afford 10,000 dollars per day. That is not a lot of money to them so it is not a deterrent5 hours ago via mobile ·

    3.Anthony Rios Its about time someone steps up to the plate and does something. Its too bad here in California everyone is blind and acts like they dont see what they are doing to us. I wish I had a few sams.5 hours ago via mobile..
    Last edited by Jay Reynolds; April 27th, 2012 at 03:47 PM.
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    And one from a post about tanks in an aircraft

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    Beverly Ann Christie stop the world i wanna get off17 hours ago · 1




    Nick Vitagliano Look into Battelle http://www.whale.to/b/splane1.html15 hours ago






    Casey Bennett How do chemtrails not affect the officials that orded it done there is no such thing they cant cover that up there are some good government officials left7 hours ago






    Ricardo Marlow ‎@trent and Carl ...... Is that what the mind controlling aliens told you to write????6 hours ago






    Lucia Diaz Bahamon I say we shoot a few down. What the heck? 3 hours ago

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    captain obvious
    says:April 19, 2012 at 10:46 am
    the gas prices will STAY high,
    until people start shooting down the CHEMTRAIL PLANES.
    they’re “UFO’s” attacking with biochemical weapons.
    they burn millions of gallons of fuel,
    the demand is reflected in OUR supply.
    they are making US pay to be poisoned,
    as they spew TONS of carbon MON-oxide into the environment.
    the wannabe greenie-fascists dont want to hear about it,
    they wont say a word about it other than “youre crazy”,
    or some other BS that their GORACLE told them.

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    From the Chemtrails Project page

    "Bryan Ferrick what do you hope to accomplish? on you tube I have a chemtrails channel with about 120 videos,,,no disrespect but unless you can send up a person with a high powered rifle and take down a few chemjets, not interested.6 April at 03:53




    Bryan Ferrick www.youtube.com/user/LibranEsqDeath To ChemTrails ===✈
    www.youtube.comClear Skies Now and Forever !



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    6 April at 03:54"

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    Another from WITWATS
    "RJ Flowers People need to open their eyes and minds, it makes me sick.16 hours ago · 1

    Tarah Herbert Where at?16 hours ago via Mobile



    Kyle Sais Gets your guns out and bring those bitches down. Take some action douche16 hours ago via "

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    Rather an incongruous threat in the first comment on this video:



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    The people in the video, the people that made the video, all need to be shot for treason!
    firstwave2

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    Oh, one of the firstwave's eh? no surprise there. I'm 'Warmm0nkey' on youtube, and if I've had many pointless back-and-forths with him on the WITWATS comments alone. To be honest, I'm sure the world would be better if he enjoyed his own medicine.
    "at the length truth will out"
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    The threats keep coming. Michael J. Murphy's Facebook page is a growing source of these threats to shoot down airplanes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael J. Murpy Facebook
    What in the World Are They Spraying? shared STOP Spraying Our Skies NOW's photo.
    Sunday.This is your Sky on CHEMTRAILS
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    Less Franken who's gonna be the badass of this movement and start shooting down the planes?Sunday at 10:59am · 1.Alex Blazquez NOTHING TO SEE HERE... JUST PLANES MAKING CLOUDS AS USUALSunday at 11:00am.

    Dan Domer So, are these specially-equipped planes doing this, or is it somehow from the fuel of everyday passenger planes?Sunday at 11:06am.

    Stacy Tara Messer when they can cut these off in the middle of the sky and cut them back on again, no this isn't from fuel. Its from aerosol sprayers mounted on the plane. Question is, "What in the world are they spraying?" !!!Sunday at 11:33am via mobile.

    Rory Pattison So who controls the aerosol sprayers? These are mostly commercial airliners (at least in the skies above the Czech Republic). Is the thinking that these are controlled by the pilots of these commercial airliners or perhaps remotely controlled?
    Are there instances of pilots or aircraft engineers speaking out about extra equipment mounted on commercial aeroplanes? Sunday at 11:39am via mobile.

    Louise Collins This is Part 1 of 3. http://youtu.be/udEtOc2IFO8Sunday at 12:32pm.

    Robert Denham http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIbuRMVVekgSunday at 1:42pm.

    Robin DeLisle Phoenix is under siege today... Trails all day. . I got the binocs out and the planes doing the spraying are huge, white, unmarked planes. All the others, leaving only normal contrails behind ( which dissipate quickly ) are clearly marked, commercial planes.Sunday at 2:09pm via mobile.

    Joe Gettis Wake everyone up! Keep informing those you know and those you don't know. The spraying needs to stop NOW! Murder!Sunday at 3:17pm.
    Last edited by Jay Reynolds; May 8th, 2012 at 04:40 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Reynolds View Post
    The threats keep coming. Michael J. Murphy's Facebook page is a growing source of these threats to shoot down airplanes.
    Hmmm...isn't it against the law to threaten to shoot down a plane? Someone should alert the authorities.

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    Of course there is a way to protect ourselves.

    Every town should buy S-300 missile system, it has range of 90 miles, so if chem-trail sprayer pass above you, simply shot it down, for better future for our children.

    R3AktoRMacedonia 1 week ago
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    More from the WITWATS Page.
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    Robert Denham


    We must distroy everything, all airports all trains, all buildings that do not house people or food, all of it...distroy everything...then we can take their power away from them, we can't beat them, so we have to distroy everything...no airports means no runways, no apility to launch the plane....also distroy all airoplanes...fuck it, fly them into buildings...kill two birds with one stone..
    Distroy their power by distroying their make belief built up world.


    21 hours ago[*]Robert Denham LAW is just WAL spelt backwards.
    Break the law you break that mental wall.
    There are no such things as laws, only ideas that you followed.
    There is no such thing as good or bad either, only thinking makes it so.21 hours ago "

    Judging by his spelling, the dumbing down seems to be working.

    On the plus side, he is one of the first to get the correct "their".
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    This post is from the Facebook group "Chemtrail Geoengineering Lawsuit II":
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    Fred Pinard How bout this...walk up to a congressman and ask him why he's allowing the Government to slow kill us...if he denies anything... shoot him in the face. It's only fare.
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    A few people in that group seem to be a bit un-hinged. They are talking about ringing in their ears driving them crazy, picking at scabs because they have morgellons. It is pretty sad and a bit disturbing.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Hj2n-y3L8&feature=plcp

    No violence from this lady but very paranoid. I fear that she contributes money to people like Mike Murphy and Dutchsinse and they encourage her mania.

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    Just to clarify. I am being electronically "stalked," most likely due to the video's that I have posted, or possibly just because I love Jesus Christ. In two instances that I am aware of, turbines have been used. They may seem harmless enough - just a really big power generator - but consider how they could be used as a weapon...understanding of course that it really is no big deal to wirelessly transfer energy from one location to another.
    Yeah, she is a bit off her rocker

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    Quote Originally Posted by scombrid View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Hj2n-y3L8&feature=plcp

    No violence from this lady but very paranoid. I fear that she contributes money to people like Mike Murphy and Dutchsinse and they encourage her mania.
    Wow, that woman is seriously disturbed.

    She sounds so "normal". But, she needs help.

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    She had help. She decided the help was part of the plot to get her. Dutchsinse and others are feeding the mania and preventing her from getting help. And she isn't unique. Type "chemwebs" into a youtube search. There's someone named cajunmiracle from southern Louisianna that is convinced that spider webs are from chemtrails. The spring bloom of spiny orb weavers has her freaked out. She claims to be sending chemweb samples to Clifford Carnicon. She's called for violence against chem-planes as have people commenting on her videos. Some of the disturbed just sound frightened but harmless and some of them seem like they could be a real threat to a pilot, air traffic controller, meteorologist, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scombrid View Post
    She had help. She decided the help was part of the plot to get her. Dutchsinse and others are feeding the mania and preventing her from getting help. And she isn't unique. Type "chemwebs" into a youtube search. There's someone named cajunmiracle from southern Louisianna that is convinced that spider webs are from chemtrails. The spring bloom of spiny orb weavers has her freaked out. She claims to be sending chemweb samples to Clifford Carnicon. She's called for violence against chem-planes as have people commenting on her videos. Some of the disturbed just sound frightened but harmless and some of them seem like they could be a real threat to a pilot, air traffic controller, meteorologist, etc...
    Thats pretty par for the course for chemtrailers. Back in the days of chemtrail central website, there were a couple of them that obviously needed mental help, more than the average chemmie. One of them even crafted some fantasy world where these two sisters were helping him out with chemtrail research and were almost fighting over each other for his affections. He would photoshop pictures of these two women in the photos of him.

    Turned out they were just women who had posed on adult websites and he had edited pictures of them (not ones with nudity) to be alongside him. When someone (Cydoniaquest) had actually found those women on adult sites, the chemtrailers circled around Dan to defend him, instead of trying to tell him to get help for his fantasy world delusions.

    Later on, this person was caught with child porn and went to prison. (Dan Rockwell) It was just so obvious this person needed help and his chemtrail friends never offered to help, and instead would try to deflect attention away from him.

    There were others too, that it was obvious that there were severe that were in need of help, and them chemtrail friends never one tried to help, and actually more got in the way of them getting help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scombrid View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Hj2n-y3L8&feature=plcp

    No violence from this lady but very paranoid. I fear that she contributes money to people like Mike Murphy and Dutchsinse and they encourage her mania.
    Wow. Scary stuff. Talk about paranoid!!! Something just "happened" to appear in the sky when she was in the room alone? What? How do you even begin to address such thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scombrid View Post
    She had help. She decided the help was part of the plot to get her. Dutchsinse and others are feeding the mania and preventing her from getting help. And she isn't unique. Type "chemwebs" into a youtube search. There's someone named cajunmiracle from southern Louisianna that is convinced that spider webs are from chemtrails. The spring bloom of spiny orb weavers has her freaked out. She claims to be sending chemweb samples to Clifford Carnicon. She's called for violence against chem-planes as have people commenting on her videos. Some of the disturbed just sound frightened but harmless and some of them seem like they could be a real threat to a pilot, air traffic controller, meteorologist, etc...
    Her channel is at http://www.youtube.com/user/cajunmiracle

    These people are disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCWilliams View Post
    Her channel is at http://www.youtube.com/user/cajunmiracle

    These people are disturbing.
    I tried to help personally, in person.
    cajunmiracle lives very close to where I was working in Louisiana last year.
    I offered to come over and show her how to identify the planes using Flight Explorer which we were both seeing making contrails over the area.
    Never took me up on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Reynolds View Post
    I tried to help personally, in person.
    cajunmiracle lives very close to where I was working in Louisiana last year.
    I offered to come over and show her how to identify the planes using Flight Explorer which we were both seeing making contrails over the area.
    Never took me up on it.
    People like this seem to take some kind of comfort in their delusions. Like their world would fall apart if some piece of information didn't comport with their beliefs. I'm thinking of a family member who refuses - REFUSES - to look at information that might be contrary to his conspiracy theories. It seems so bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCWilliams View Post
    Wow. Scary stuff. Talk about paranoid!!! Something just "happened" to appear in the sky when she was in the room alone? What? How do you even begin to address such thinking?
    Good question. In the case of bethanyhome7, the first video of hers that I saw was about "terminator beams" and "frequency bubbles" on radar in Texas right around sunset. No overt signs that she had any sort of paranoia. It just appeared that she had no clue what she was looking at. I explained as simply as possible what it looks like when the radar is pointed at the setting sun (her "terminator beams) and what bats look like on radar when they emerge in huge swarms. I suggested google terms to search to see articles about biologists using weather radar to track bats. I even sent her the GPS coordinates of major bat colonies around the Austin area so she could fly there and see them on Google Earth (including photos of swarms that people have uploaded).


    Well the tactic of supplying facts just backfired. (I've read articles on 'The Backfire Effect' since then). She assumed that I was one of "them" trying to "disinform". She is under the impression that radar is a picture from space and telling her otherwise is "disinfo" to her. Sending her to websites explaining weather radar is also disinfo as those are just fakes...Any persistent effort to correct her errors in perceiving weather images seems to feed her belief that she is being "targeted". And then the charlatans come in and say, "that's right don't you listen to the shills".

    Similar experience with cajunmiracle last year when I saw a chemtrail video of hers. She insisted that until a year or two ago only small light aircraft flew over her remote corner of the world. I explained to her that a lot of traffic flies over her area, particularly out Houston but from other areas as well. I attempted to steer her to a map of US flight paths. Backfire. I haven't even considered addressing her chemweb videos.

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    From the Chemtrail Lawsuit Page. This guy is actually asking US Air force pilots to shoot down airliners.

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    wow!

    It's only a matter of time before someone does just that.


    I hope it will teach a lot of "chemtrail advocates" a little something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Reynolds View Post
    I tried to help personally, in person.
    cajunmiracle lives very close to where I was working in Louisiana last year.
    I offered to come over and show her how to identify the planes using Flight Explorer which we were both seeing making contrails over the area.
    Never took me up on it.
    She is now using tracking software. So her original claims that they didn’t have commercial flights in their rural corner of the world have proven false. But she is more resolute than ever in her belief in Clifford Carnicom. In the second video I link here, she thinks that youtube censored her video to keep the data she collected on flights secret when it looks like there was an error in her video creation or upload. Several flights show fine. They are commercial flights on commercial routes, like a SWA flight from HOU to MSY. But she still thinks that they are abnormal and weren’t present in her vicinity prior to Dec. 1, 2011. She really thinks that Southwest, United, etc…. are running extra flights out of their way to spray her?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhlmqKC1Llc&feature=channel&list=UL
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFUrogFeb4o&feature=channel&list=UL
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mcAnwx3yOQ&feature=channel&list=UL
    What is she going to do now that she thinks that all the major airlines are running “spray” operations?

    This guy lives in southern Louisiana likely near cajunmiracle. He’s an acquaintance of hers on youtube. He’s learned to track flights. Hasn’t dented his comprehensive chemtrail/chemweb beliefs. But at least he’s tracking planes. In the first video he seems to think that he chase a spray plane away with his camera. But at least he can identify the numerous commercial flights over southern LA. Problem is that he and others, instead of learning that contrails are a normal part of aviation, are deciding that the commercial airlines are complicit.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3exMQORdRvM&list=UUctYDldywZPDj_GByD9anrw& index=1&feature=plcp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3w7-7_zt8w&feature=channel&list=UL
    This third video is mostly for the long video description. He’s another Clifford Carnicom follower. I wonder how much carnicom has taken from these folks?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT8d0lsZ1Gk&feature=channel&list=UL

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