I know people who have been on the net since before 99 and it's easy to fool some of them
In the first video you linked to, the "orb" appears to be travelling in the opposite direction to the plane, so doesn't seem interested in it at all.
Also, the plane appears to be about 15+ miles away judging from the angle of view and the fact that it has to be about 5 miles high.
And exactly what analysis is wrong?Originally Posted by Spongebob
What fucking altitude hurdle? stop posting this BULLSHIT
The SIMPLE FUCKING FACT is that you shill bags cannot debunk these orbs... it's all quite fucking obvious You can spew ALL the BULLSHIT in the world you want about out of focus, birds, Rayleigh scattering and any other bullshit you can manage to type BUT the FACT remains... these orbs CANNOT be debunked. How many other videos do you want me to post?
"Chem" "fallout" ?
Your videos are inconclusive and your analysis is wrong (IMO). You can believe whatever you choose to believe personally, but to me you do not show proof of anything that requires an exotic explanation...
SIGH.. OK.. How many of these "orb videos do you wish to see? ... I have all day... Keep posting guys, you are ONLY PROVING ME RIGHT
There are many old videos and articles out there explaining how many "orbs" have been debunked over the years. Your videos have just been debunked and added to that growing list...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gavvAg6Gnak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZfPsQeZgM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X19k7OKcwwk Noting more needs to be said.. The TRUTH speaks for itself...
Debunked? LOL.. really? keep bullshitting
orbs appear to be the same type photographic phenomenon as rods, and until someone can get good photos, nothing can be claimed about them. There are serious photgraphers out there, but they are not taking photos of orbs or running around with hair on fire about them, just as serious contrail photographers aren't running around screaming about chemtrails. Contrailspotters have focused their tech on getting superbly clear imagery of near mach speed events at distances many miles away to reveal the exact identity of what is a mere orb to the eye. Until orb believers apply the same rigor to their quarry, they will remain unable to prove much about their claims.
http://www.luchtzak.be/forums/viewforum.php?f=25
"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X19k7OKcwwk Just another bird/out of focus? LMFAO.... You guys are PATHETIC
The fact remains.. you CANNOT debunk these orbs
"orbs appear to be the same type photographic phenomenon as rods," Read the posts Note 2 This video was recorded @ 30 fps F5.6 - 250th sec fast enough to rule out digital tricks like RODs ... SIGH
"we" are "pathetic" Jay...?
This is for UFO discussion, I am not interested in weird and wacky UFO claims, and even if were I would not discuss them in a chemtrail thread.
I'm going to collect all the CT orb videos i can. And then post them... we will let the public decide whether or not ALL these objects are BIRDS/OUT OF FOCUS.. or other ENTITIES
Even when they are centered around supposed "Chem/CON trails? OK then.. i was informed this was a discussion forum about Chem/CON trails... forgive me
The fact remains that you have no facts to base any claims upon, and therefore there is nothing to debunk.
To the contrary, this image taken recently allows full view of the aircraft making the contrail, the plane's livery, and aircaft number. It sets a gold-standard, no chemtrail site has come close to.
KAL, BTW, just by the tail.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...filtered-1.jpg
"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gavvAg6Gnak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZfPsQeZgM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X19k7OKcwwk
The simple fact is you CANNOT DEBUNK these objects... END of STORY
"The fact remains that you have no facts to base any claims upon"
Really? All the orb evidence on these YOUTUBE videos would suggest otherwise...
more contrail nonsense... Blah blah blah
"Evidence" on youtube videos...
I will point out another option: That it would take a minute or two to add an "orb" to a contrail video using Adobe after effects or similar...
Once the altitude issue was removed from the OP video - what else was there left to debunk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gavvAg6Gnak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZfPsQeZgM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X19k7OKcwwk
Birds? Out of focus? Do you have a fucking BRAIN? lols...
Ahhh.. good old adobe... nope.. no such shit here I'm afraid
"Evidence" on youtube videos"
You think it's going to come from the news? LMAO... Good luck with that buddy
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqfGBgGJxCc
I can post these all day... It really isn't looking too good for you guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s38aNHCjGdc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tccKw2XEceU
And they say fast food and cigarettes are dangerous to ones health!.. HAH
Given that that is exactly what they look like, yes.
Care to explain why YOU think they are not birds? Why do you think the are as far away as the contrails?
No. You're 100% correct. You filmed a UFO. You are special. Clearly. We're all illuminati shills. You figured us out. Please, join with us and cross over to the dark side.
Ultimately, as Carl Sagan would say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
You have the burden of proof. If you're claiming your video contains something other than what you would find in the known world, you have the burden to prove it.
You're demanding people prove a negative. I can't prove i DIDN'T steal a car last night. In your book, i stole a car last night.
Posting additional videos of ignorant people filming bugs, birds, dust and balloons doesn't make you a brilliant discoverer.
Go for it. I think you should spend the next 10 years scouring the web for orb videos and compiling them into a comprehensive guide to the hidden world of UFOs, Secret Societies and conspiracys. You're on to something. Run with it. Go!
Look at the attached photo of a UFO in my backyard. YOU can't prove it's really a dual-carb air filter tied to a string ... so it must be a UFO! Right?
Attachment 151
P.S. I just noticed all the ChemClouds in the background!!!! Woah!
Last edited by PCWilliams; December 26th, 2011 at 08:19 AM. Reason: Noticed something in my photo.
"I'm going to collect all the CT orb videos i can. And then post them... we will let the public decide whether or not ALL these objects are BIRDS/OUT OF FOCUS.. or other ENTITIES"
If you collect them from youtube, like all the previous one's you have posted, then they are already available to the public. Will showing them twice make them any more useful as "evidence" ??
I think Debunk this simply doesn't know what debunking is - he seems to think that debunking means knowing exactly what something is, which is, of course, not the case at all.
Debunk this - you might find it less frustrating if yuo read this - http://metabunk.org/content/129-A-Guide-to-Debunking
Personally I am quite comfortable debunking something and yet not knowing what it is - pointing out why it is not necessarily what it is claimed to be by otehrs is also debunking.
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." -Pascal
"It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley; but not at all so to believe or not in God" - Diderot
Correct, we can not debunk an orb, because its not even defined what an "orb" is. Is an Orb some indistinguishable, out of focus dot or object, in a youtube video?
Well sure then, Orbs exist I suppose.
You nailed it. The guy comes in here challenging everyone to prove him wrong, but he has not even stated what he thinks he is seeing.
Yeah, saying that you can't identify something does not mean its something significant.
Orbs are interesting though, and could do with an "debunked: white orbs" that explains, with examples, how the various images and video come about.
Various paranormal sites do a good job of identifying dust orbs, and explaining to their followers why not to get excited about them.
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." -Pascal
"It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley; but not at all so to believe or not in God" - Diderot
How about these orb though? Out of focus white objects like birds.
No one else seems bothered by them in the least, so no-one seems to have done a "how/where/why" piece on the 'net that I can see.
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." -Pascal
"It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley; but not at all so to believe or not in God" - Diderot
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