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    Quote Originally Posted by treasurecoastskywatch View Post
    Wasnt Hilters eugenics it was the American progressives that started eugenics . After the eugenics movement was well established in the United States, it was spread to Germany. California eugenicists began producing literature promoting eugenics and sterilization and sending it overseas to German scientists and medical professionals. By 1933, California had subjected more people to forceful sterilization than all other U.S. states combined. The forced sterilization program engineered by the Nazis was partly inspired by California's].
    The Rockefeller Foundation helped develop and fund various German eugenics programs, including the one that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz. They say we can fit all the people in the world comfortably in Texas

    You need to correct your links as they are broken.

    There is no doubt that a few counties within the US have had forced sterilization programs a long, long time ago, but they're just that - in the past. VA just recently had hearings regarding reparation payments for them. Do you live in the US currently? Do you honestly think there is eugenics taking place today at the behest of UN Agenda 21?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jvnk08 View Post
    You need to correct your links as they are broken.

    There is no doubt that a few counties within the US have had forced sterilization programs a long, long time ago, but they're just that - in the past. VA just recently had hearings regarding reparation payments for them. Do you live in the US currently? Do you honestly think there is eugenics taking place today at the behest of UN Agenda 21?
    That was fromn wiki . Oregon is the only state where some sterlization is underway .Not forced of course but . Sure they are pushing abortions in many countries in africa and of course birth conrol . Which with the problems in Africa would seem to make sense . but who has the right ? There is a new form of eugenics coming called Transhumanization coming . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism .

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    Quote Originally Posted by treasurecoastskywatch View Post

    That was fromn wiki . Oregon is the only state where some sterlization is underway .Not forced of course but . Sure they are pushing abortions in many countries in africa and of course birth conrol . Which with the problems in Africa would seem to make sense . but who has the right ? There is a new form of eugenics coming called Transhumanization coming . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism .
    LOL... long term unemployment as grounds for sterilization. 'They', Banksters/politicians, (who create no wealth), create a world where they have 90% of the wealth, by stealing it from the workers, (who create wealth), and then get to demonise those who have been worst affected by their corruption and thefts.... Sounds about right mmmmm?
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    It's true, forced sterilization hasn't occurred in the US since 1981, ancient days by the current pace of history. Convincing those suffering from addiction issues to get themselves sterilized for a couple of hundred bucks is alive and well, though.

    http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...981916,00.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grieves View Post
    It's true, forced sterilization hasn't occurred in the US since 1981, ancient days by the current pace of history. Convincing those suffering from addiction issues to get themselves sterilized for a couple of hundred bucks is alive and well, though.

    http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...981916,00.html
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    Chavarria had the procedure done after meeting with Project Prevention, a North Carolina–based charity that gives drug addicts $300 if they go on long-term birth control or undergo sterilization. The aim of Barbara Harris, 57, the organization's controversial founder, is to prevent addicts from having children they can't care for and reduce the number of babies who are born exposed to drugs.

    That doesn't sound that sinister to me. It's worth pointing out that they also seem to be offering contraception instead of sterilization. Regarding compulsory sterilization in the US, at last there are some reparation initiatives proposed/underway unlike some other countries where it is still a practice today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxymoron
    LOL... long term unemployment as grounds for sterilization. 'They', Banksters/politicians, (who create no wealth), create a world where they have 90% of the wealth, by stealing it from the workers, (who create wealth), and then get to demonise those who have been worst affected by their corruption and thefts.... Sounds about right mmmmm?

    That is a heavily glossed and uninformed generalization, but I get where you're coming from.

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    you might be interested to see this regarding Agenda 21

    http://youtu.be/YyYNneRU2VM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    you might be interested to see this regarding Agenda 21

    http://youtu.be/YyYNneRU2VM

    Or we might not, seeing as it looks like a 13 minute informercial set to music? Is there a bullet-point summary somewhere?

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    This video is being claimed as proof that Agenda 21 is in progress. Please help me debunk this. Sorry if it has already been debunked.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=wESxr_jt9fs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfly View Post
    This video is being claimed as proof that Agenda 21 is in progress. Please help me debunk this. Sorry if it has already been debunked.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=wESxr_jt9fs

    @Soulfly

    What are you trying to debunk exactly?

    A) That the concerns expressed by the citizens of Danville CA in the referenced video are based on conspiracy theories and therefore bunk?

    B) That the concerns expressed by the citizensof Danville CA in the referenced video are real but they are not in any way related to the UNs Agenda 21 program?

    c) Something else altogether and if so please expain?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCollarCritic View Post
    @Soulfly

    What are you trying to debunk exactly?

    A) That the concerns expressed by the citizens of Danville CA in the referenced video are based on conspiracy theories and therefore bunk?

    B) That the concerns expressed by the citizensof Danville CA in the referenced video are real but they are not in any way related to the UNs Agenda 21 program?

    c) Something else altogether and if so please expain?


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    Pretty sure B.
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    Sorry, it is probably something that cannot be debunked, simply because the person who believes it has a complete lack of the understanding of geoengineering or even what cloud seeding is. I invited him to the forum but I don't hold out, I was called a liberal in the first comment he directed to me, simply for using snopes to help my friend be aware of the fake Facebook memes telling people to change this or set your privacy to this so you can't be whatever. After I explained to him about the Facebook thing, he simply called me names and ranted about how I was drinking the fluoride and sucking on chemtrails. I hope he shows up.

    I did warn him that he would need to be polite here!
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    Ah, the old "go back to sleep and drink your fluoride and watch American Idol and believe everything the government tells you" debate tactic. It's a winner every time.
    "Details beget facts, and facts, judiciously sent forth, become assassins."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Tar View Post
    Ah, the old "go back to sleep and drink your fluoride and watch American Idol and believe everything the government tells you" debate tactic. It's a winner every time.
    I just read his response to me inviting him to Metabunk on my friends FB. He said he is banned and doesn't want to post anon. LOL Sorry for the slight derail of the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfly View Post
    I just read his response to me inviting him to Metabunk on my friends FB. He said he is banned and doesn't want to post anon. LOL Sorry for the slight derail of the thread.
    Who is he? I'll unban him if he wants to come back and politely discuss things. There only five people on permanent ban (not bad for two years).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick View Post
    Who is he? I'll unban him if he wants to come back and politely discuss things. There only five people on permanent ban (not bad for two years).
    His name is Tim Morrow, that is all I can give you since he is not my friend directly.



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