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    They cannot debunk if we use the word geoengineering. I cannot stress this enough ..

    Sorry if this has been posted before...

    I just came across this word file and found it interesting that Geoengineeringwatch seem to think that "They cannot debunk if we use the word geoengineering"...

    Dear Friends,


    Please FORWARD this email to all your lists.




    1.
    A double-sided flier was handed out at the Mt. Shasta 1/22/11 World Chemtrail Awareness Day; the back page lists phone numbers you can call on every day that you see chemtrails,
    which is about every day.


    I plan on committing to myself to make at least 5 phone calls per day, and I'll rotate
    through the phone numbers. If we all do this, we can make a big difference.
    If nothing else, we will at least raise awareness of this issue in the minds of people
    who absolutely have no idea that chemtrails even exist.


    Here is what I plan on saying; feel free to use this script or make up your own:


    "Hi! My name is ________ _________; I live in Siskiyou County, California,
    and I'm calling to report that there is chemtrail/geoengineering activity in the sky today.
    This activity is a crime against nature and all humanity. I want to know what
    action you are taking to stop them from occurring in the future."


    Regarding the above script, I sent this entire email to Michael Murphy [producer of "What in the World are they Spraying?"] and asked for his feedback. Here is his response:


    "In order to get the attention that this issue deserves it is imperative that we use chemtrail/geoengineering programs together. There are too many "official" sources that have "debunked" "chemtrails". They cannot debunk if we use the word geoengineering. I cannot stress this enough. This has proven to be effective in exposing the truth to this crime against nature and humanity."


    Michael J. Murphy
    http://www.coalitionagainstgeoengineering.org/
    http://truthmediaproductions.blogspot.com/







    CHEMTRAIL ACTION LIST TO CONTACT TODAY, TOMORROW,
    & EVERY DAY THAT THEY SPRAY:




    "EACH OF YOU MUST DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH and focus your anger and frustration where it belongs...
    AT THOSE WHO ARE SPRAYING YOU!" --


    geoengineeringwatch.org/ads/whatyoucando.pdf




    Here is the list of phone #'s to call, as listed on the back page of the flier:




    CHEMTRAIL ACTION LIST TO CONT ACT TODAY, TOMORROW, & EVERYDAY THAT THEY SPRAY




    GOVERNOR ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER General information: (916) 445-2841 2841 (press #1, #5, #0)
    Fax: (916) 445-4633Email [email protected] - Chief of Staff is Susan Kennedy
    [It's Gov. Jerry Brown now.]


    CA DEPARTMENT OF FOOD AND AGRICULTURE
    Public Affairs Officer: (916) 654-0462 or(800) 491-1899 (press #1, #6) [email protected]
    Secretary A.G. Kawamura (he makes the final decision on spraying):[email protected]
    John Connell, the state's expert in insect eradication: [email protected]
    Steve Lyle (public affairs) in charge of public communication: [email protected]
    Nancy Lungren (spokesperson for Kawamura): [email protected]


    CA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH
    General Information: (916) 558-1784
    Director, Mark B. Horton, MD, MSPH: (916) 558-1700, [email protected]
    Kevin Reilly, Deputy Director: [email protected]
    Online feedback/email:http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programservic...s/default.aspx


    ASSEMBLYMAN JOHN LAIRD (strongly opposes current spray plans)
    (831) 649-2832 or (916) [email protected]
    SENATOR ABEL MALDONADO (831) 657-6315 or (916) 651-4015 or go web page to send him an email
    REPRESENTATIVE SAM FARR c/o [email protected]
    DIANE FEINSTEIN c/o [email protected]
    ABC, 7 San Francisco News Department, (415) 954-7926, fax (415) 956-6402, http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/
    Associated Press (LA), Email Press Releases [email protected], (213) 626-1200, http://www.ap.org/california/
    Associated Press (SF), Email Press Releases [email protected], (415) 495-1708, http://www.ap.org/california/
    California/ Water News (managed by DWR), [email protected], 5/UPN 44/,
    Bay Area News Room/Community Calendar [email protected], (415) 249-4444, fax (415) 765-8916
    Contra Costa Times News, [email protected], 925-943-8235, fax (925) 933-0239,
    Water News, two contacts, Amy Norris, [email protected], [email protected]
    East Bay Express News, (510) 879-3700, (510) 601-0217, http://www.eastbayexpress.com
    Fox 11 - LA/ KCOP UPN 13 - LA News Room/Desk, [email protected], (310) 584-2000, fax (310) 584-2023, http://
    www.fox11.com/ or http://www.upn13.com/
    KCRA 3, NBC, Sac News Room, (916) 441-4050, http://www.kcra.com
    KRON Channel 4, San Francisco News Room, [email protected], (415) 441-4444, fax (415) 561-8136,
    KTVU Channel 2, San Francisco News Room (510) 834-1212 or fax, (510) 451-2610, http://www.ktvu.com
    KTXL Fox 40, Sac News Room, (916)739-1079 or fax, (916)739-0559, http://fox40.trb.com/
    KXTV News 10 - Sac, News Room (916) 441-2345 or fax (916) 447-6107, http://www.news10.net/
    Modesto Bee News Room, (209) 578-2207, http://www.modbee.com
    (760)745-3769, http://www.nctimes.com/forms/announc.../news_tip.html
    Oakland Tribune News Room, (510) 208-6450 or fax (510) 208-6477, http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune
    Oakland Tribune, Mario Dianda, Editor, [email protected], (510) 208-6432
    Oakland Tribune, Leanne McLaughlin - Managing Editor, [email protected]. (510) 208-6448
    Sacramento/ Bee, Stewart Leavenworth, [email protected], (916) 321-1001 or fax, (916) 321-1109, www.sacbee.
    com
    Sac Bee Folsom Bureau, Jim Downing, [email protected], (916) 608-7452 or fax, (916) 985-8473, www.sacbee.com
    Sacramento News & Review News, Tips, [email protected], (916) 498-1234 or fax, (916) 498-7920, http://
    www.newsreview.com
    San Francisco Chronicle, (415)777-7100 or fax, (415)896-1107, http://sfgate.com/chronicle
    San Francisco Examiner, News Room, (415) 826-1100 or fax, (415) 359-2766, http://www.sfexaminer.com/
    Santa Rosa Press-Democrat, News Room, 707-546-2020 or fax, 707-521-5330, www.pressdemo.com
    Univision 34 KMEX, LA News Room, (310) 338-0700 or fax, (310) 348-3493, http://www.univision.com/content/channel.
    jhtml?chid=9450&schid=9451
    UPN-31 KMAX, Sac News Room, (916) 925-3100 or fax, (916) 643-4809, http://www.kmax-tv.com/


    2.
    Besides phone calls, here are many other things that you can do;
    http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/htm/yourtoolkit.html


    3.
    On this page you will find "Breaking News" regarding chemtrails:
    http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/htm/breaking.html


    This page has 10 news items for Feb. 7, 2010, one of which is:


    Chemtrails: An Updated Look at Aerosol Toxins, Part 1.
    ᄅBy Dr. Ilya Sandra Perlingieri, Feb. 3, 2011
    http://carnicominstitute.org/perlingieri.html


    4.
    You can check out another great site:
    http://www.coalitionagainstgeoengineering.org/
    I just noticed that there are letters from me and from Rose on the right side of this page!


    scroll down and find this info:


    ORGANIZE A PUBLIC SCREENING


    This documentary [What in the World are they Spraying?] has taken off like a rocket! and many people have asked if they could organize a public screening in their local town. The answer, of course, is YES, YES.


    That made us realize that this is a great way to introduce geo-engineering, not just to neighbors and friends, but to the whole town, so we are passing the idea to you. If you want to do something really different and reach a large number of people, this is for you. Our only caveat is that you should not try this alone. We suggest you bring together at least three others (the more the better) who will help with promotion and staffing the event. It also is recommended that sponsors be obtained beforehand who will cover the expenses in the unlikely but possible event that ticket sales and DVD sales fall short of out-of-pocket costs. Sometimes the best choice is to rent a small movie theater within a large movie complex because it already has ticket takers and ushers and probably won't require that you obtain liability insurance. All you need to add is a PA system (unless they have one) and arrange a place for your display tables and reception. We can help by providing art work for movie posters and flyers, and we will publish the details of your screening in the Unfiltered News Events Calendar. If you you would like more information, contact Michael Murphy, President of the Coalition Against Geo-Engineering, here.


    This site will provide:


    PDF images for promotion of public screenings:
    ? Movie poster 11" x 17"
    ? Flyer 8.5" x 11"
    ? Coalition sign-up poster (#1) 11" x 17"
    ? Coalition sign-up poster (#2) 11" x 17"
    ? Coalition sign-up sheets 8.5" x 11"
    ? Literature sales disclaimer 8.5" x 11"
    ? Order form for DVD: What in the World / Spraying


    ? Purchase DVD online, What in the World Are They Spraying


    ? Radio ad sample (Click here to have the ad customized at no charge for your event.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spongebob View Post
    Sorry if this has been posted before...

    "In order to get the attention that this issue deserves it is imperative that we use chemtrail/geoengineering programs together. There are too many "official" sources that have "debunked" "chemtrails". They cannot debunk if we use the word geoengineering. I cannot stress this enough. This has proven to be effective in exposing the truth to this crime against nature and humanity."
    This is akin to saying it's impossible to debunk the conspiracy theory that all cats are spying devices for the CIA because of the Acoustic Kitty project in the 1960s.

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    It is a form of framing. Using big words makes it sound like your argument has more gravitas. Dane Wigington likes to use the acronyms SAG and SRM, stratospheric aerosol geoengineering and solar radiation management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Funk View Post
    It is a form of framing. Using big words makes it sound like your argument has more gravitas. Dane Wigington likes to use the acronyms SAG and SRM, stratospheric aerosol geoengineering and solar radiation management.
    Dane also loves the words "Power Structure".
    Which is where I think he'd like to be.
    "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain

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    Is the phrase - "Geoengineering" harder to debunk than "chemtrails" ?

    I would say so - that is why they now employ that tactic.

    It obviously gives the muppets a more "scientificated" description for vapour trails...

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    But the chemtrail believers that came up with the geoengineering gambit didn't know how to do science.

    They never actually sought out how they could prove their case, using easily available facts.

    But I did, and what I found disproved all claims that geoengineering is taking place:
    I did this in 2005:
    http://web.archive.org/web/200610282...p/t-35721.html

    and again six years later:

    http://metabunk.org/threads/111-Hist...gineering-quot

    Michael J. Murphy &Co. have already been informed of these facts. If they choose to continue telling this bunk to their followers, they are doing so with full knowledge that it has already been debunked. Essentially, they are setting up their followers for an epic fail.

    Hear me, chemtrail believers.

    You have been "set up" because your misleaders already know that what they have been telling you is false, easily debunked, and they won't 'man up' to the situation. Instead, they send you out unarmed, thinking that you have science on your side. Don't blame anyone else for the situation you find yourselves in, blame yourself and those whom you follow.
    "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ...Mark Twain

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    Good job Jay...

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