This was very hard to hear, but it happened. Someone made a suggestion that funds be used to buy planes to protect our airspace and blow those planes out of the sky", Dane Wigington said, "We all feel that way."
The conversation began normally enough. Russ Tanner droned on about ideas for activism.
He says they plan to use "Fear Based Marketing" to reach their goal.
Dane Wigington said that chemtrails/geoengineering was more of a threat than thermonuclear annihilation.
He expects the end won't be too far off.
He has spent over $50,000 on chemtrails so far.
He also claims that "spraying" started sixty years ago and any contrails seen now, even those that dissipate are probably spraying.
Russ Tanner agrees, even non-persistent contrails are spraying, none of the others had a problem with that claim.
He says a lawsuit is being filed against Shasta County, no details, he made that claim over a year ago.
He admits that "spraying is unprovable", but thinks the courts are rigged anyways.
He described Michael J. Murphy as "living in a tent in Hawaii", very frugally, but in need of funds regularly, maybe $500.00/ month.
He also wants funds to support Yvonne Nachtigal who he says runs geoengineeringwatch.org. I think he is in charge now.
Murphy has a lawyer named Larry Becraft, a bottom of the barrel "tax protestor" lawyer, to set up a non-profit to be called The International Coalition For Geoengineering Education. I suppose this cuts all ties to Murphy's former Co-producer G. Edward Griffin who is no longer mentioned by Murphy in interviews.
Neither Geoengineeringwatch.org or Global Skywatch have had success raising funds. Global Skywatch reports $100.00 received selling bumper stickers.
In order to raise funds, Russ Tanner, who builds websites for vitamin and herb sellers says that he will set up any individual with a 500 page website and supply products from "Nature's Sunshine" if part of the profits go towards the perrsonal expenses of Michael J. Murphy and Yvonne Nachtigal who work 24/7/365 for chemtrails. Yvonne has had recent brain surgery, and Michael is in Hawaii.
The attorney "Lexy/Lexie?" Hunter spoke at length about how she is consulting a "Dr. Bill Deagle" for a new lawsuit. She says that he has "treated the pilots who fly the sprayplanes". Good luck with that........
Hunter also knows for sure that John Holdren is in charge of the spraying, since all environmental oversight was removed from Congress, whatever that means.
I asked about their change in definition of a chemtrail from just the persistent contrails to any contrail at all being "spraying". When I pressed the argument, I was disconnected.