Wasn't it so with lighthouses that the beam is blocked when shining on land?
good point!!. there is a shield. there seems to be a small slit window though in the back..you can see it light up with the rotation if you go frame by frame in youtube.
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/Cabansag.PNG
...we got to a vantage point where we could determine that what we were chasing was only a beacon light off in the distance.
Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident, citing Burroughs' hand-written statement, viewable onAnother participant, John Burroughs, also stated: "We could see a beacon going around so we went towards it. We followed it for about two miles [3 km] before we could [see] it was coming from a lighthouse."[23]
(The signature is indecipherable to me; don't know if it's a "pp", but "Chief Constable" is typed below- Suffolk Constabulary's most senior officer).The only lights visible to the officers visiting the incident were those from Orford Light House.
(Click to enlarge if interested).-Same blog as above, also Wikipedia Rendlesham Forest incident
(A minor aside, Penniston's "agitation" is the only reference to the emotional state of any of the men in the statements IIRC).SSgt Penniston reported getting near the "object" and then all of a sudden said they had gone past it and were looking at a marker beacon that was in the same general direction as the other lights. I asked him, through SSgt Coffey, if he could have been mistaken, to which Penniston replied that had I seen the other lights I would know the difference. SSgt Penniston seemed somewhat agitated at this point.
Maybe 1914
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orfordness_LighthouseThe lighthouse was further modernized in 1914: a new revolving optic was installed (which remained in use for 99 years), and a new additional light was installed along with fixed lenses at a level below the lantern, so the sector lights now shone from windows on the tower.
is it? if you say so.
or ill just believe you)
Noooooo, not if I say so, but if the evidence is persuasive.
Ian Ridpath did a video interview with Vince Thurkettle for the BBC in 1983 and they were able to see the lighthouse at night from the forest.is it? if you say so.
(your comments tend to be super long, so instead of reading ill wait to see if someone else contradicts you
Article: It shows the Orford Ness lighthouse flashing as seen from near the eastern edge of the forest, in the same direction that the US airmen saw their flashing UFO.
Article: Within days of the story breaking, I visited Rendlesham Forest at night with a BBC TV camera crew to interview forester Vince Thurkettle and film the lighthouse flashing as seen from the area where Col Halt, the prime witness, had seen his flashing UFO. However, it was not until many years after my initial visit that I was able to pin down exactly where Col Halt had been standing. The clue came from an online interview Halt gave to Salley Rayl on the Microsoft Network in 1997 May, by when he had retired from the air force and felt freer to speak. In this interview, the existence of which was brought to my attention by James Easton, Halt noted that the UFO had appeared closely in line with a farmhouse ‘directly in front of us’.
Armed with this new lead, I returned to Rendlesham Forest in 1998 October. Scouting around at the forest edge, I discovered something that I had not appreciated previously: the top of the lighthouse peeps through a gap between distant trees, and can be seen directly from only a limited area of the forest. Remarkably enough, when I was positioned so that I could see the lighthouse through the gap in the distant tree line, the farmhouse lay right in front of me, in the same line of sight, just as Halt had described it as lining up with the flashing UFO.
Article: Above is a super-telephoto view of the top of the Orfordness lighthouse peeking through a notch between trees on the skyline, as seen from the eastern edge of Rendlesham Forest where the flashing UFO was sighted.
Article: The lighthouse photographed by me on Orford Ness on 2013 August 28. Comparison with Image 1 at the top of the page shows that the viewing azimuth is identical to the view from the forest edge. Through the windows, the outline of one of the three giant rotating Fresnel lenses that focused the beam can be seen.
I love the beautiful countryside.Ian Ridpath did a video interview with Vince Thurkettle for the BBC in 1983 and they were able to see the lighthouse at night from the forest.
Article: It shows the Orford Ness lighthouse flashing as seen from near the eastern edge of the forest, in the same direction that the US airmen saw their flashing UFO.
http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/vince.mov - section of interview showing the lighthouse beacon at night from there.
Also more info and pics here from further visits by Ridpath:
Article: Within days of the story breaking, I visited Rendlesham Forest at night with a BBC TV camera crew to interview forester Vince Thurkettle and film the lighthouse flashing as seen from the area where Col Halt, the prime witness, had seen his flashing UFO. However, it was not until many years after my initial visit that I was able to pin down exactly where Col Halt had been standing. The clue came from an online interview Halt gave to Salley Rayl on the Microsoft Network in 1997 May, by when he had retired from the air force and felt freer to speak. In this interview, the existence of which was brought to my attention by James Easton, Halt noted that the UFO had appeared closely in line with a farmhouse ‘directly in front of us’.
Armed with this new lead, I returned to Rendlesham Forest in 1998 October. Scouting around at the forest edge, I discovered something that I had not appreciated previously: the top of the lighthouse peeps through a gap between distant trees, and can be seen directly from only a limited area of the forest. Remarkably enough, when I was positioned so that I could see the lighthouse through the gap in the distant tree line, the farmhouse lay right in front of me, in the same line of sight, just as Halt had described it as lining up with the flashing UFO.
Also further discussion of whether the beam would be visible:
Article: Above is a super-telephoto view of the top of the Orfordness lighthouse peeking through a notch between trees on the skyline, as seen from the eastern edge of Rendlesham Forest where the flashing UFO was sighted.
Article: The lighthouse photographed by me on Orford Ness on 2013 August 28. Comparison with Image 1 at the top of the page shows that the viewing azimuth is identical to the view from the forest edge. Through the windows, the outline of one of the three giant rotating Fresnel lenses that focused the beam can be seen.
ty for confirming my contention that, to debunk, all one needs is to read that site thoroughly
or you could have just corrected Anne and told us that the video proof provided by Ian shows the beam does not sweep through the trees
Article: Vince Thurkettle lived and worked in Rendlesham Forest at the time of the UFO incident and knew how bright the Orford Ness lighthouse could appear between the trees – that’s it, just over his shoulder and above the blue on-screen clock. Click on the picture to see a 1.6 MB QuickTime file of my interview with him, showing multiple flashes. To download my entire report, click here (20MB file). Note to broadcasters: The BBC library reference number for the original footage is CIN LISC 713022.
not that i've ever seen. i can guess some ufo believers might say that.
-Ah, thanks for that deirdre it was me being a bit dense. (Releasing my captured cryptids in gratitude).
well we can see the back hole of the light. but not the glass side facing the sea.
It's England, and it's right beside the sea. I think it would be very unusual NOT to see the beam of light in moist air/mist/fog.
Article: HALT: OK, we’re looking at the thing, we’re probably about two to three hundred yards away. It looks like an eye winking at you. Still moving from side to side. And when you put the Starscope on it, it sort of has a hollow centre, a dark centre, it’s...
ENGLUND(?): Like a pupil...
HALT: Yeah, like a pupil of an eye looking at you, winking. And the flash is so bright to the Starscope that it almost burns your eye.
[Ian’s note: The starscope amplified light by about a thousand times and had a magnification of 4 times, so naturally the light appeared much brighter and larger than to the naked eye.]
do we have examples of this? i dont see any in similar photos yandex images
Nope, those aren't Airy rings of point sources. Something like 80% of the light is within the first dark ring. Something to do with Bessel functions and things that are way beyond my pay grade right now. I'm not saying what you're showing aren't Airy rings, but they aren't Airy rings of point sources through a medium of constant refractive index. (If you can dick around with the medium, of course anything can happen. Stars don't twinkle, the medium twinkles them.)Airy disks are quite variable, and depend on the focus and optics of the device; but some do have darker circles in the centre.
Your webcam shows a reflection on the water.
Bear in mind that the lighthouse was not a point source; indeed, it was a complex source issuing from a Fresnel lens.
Trinity House, which acts as the the General Lighthouse Authority (GLA) for England, Wales, the Channel Islands and Gibraltar, donated the lens from Orfordness Lighthouse, which was completed in 1792 on the east coast of England and guided mariners until it was decommissioned in 2013. The optic lens was installed in 1914 and served for 99 years.
did it change when the lights rotated? or blinked off like your above example? (some of our lighthouses are literally lit up..a spotlight on the ground).
So it has gone completely now, it seems. The last time I was in that part of the country it was to visit the archaeological site at Sutton Hoo, but we drove past the Rendlesham forest.
but it's ugly.
I made no statement about what you had seen. But I'm glad you figured it out!
They're trained and experienced with regard to their job, not with regard to UFO hunting.
When in college I was a volunteer in an experiment (run by the psychology department, I think) in which I rode a stationary bicycle in a mostly darkened room and was asked which direction "the little light moved". (I wasn't fooled.)
Plenty of evidence elsewhere on this forum of highly-trained, intelligent, healthy and honest people, including USAF combat pilots, misidentifying things (and making false positive identifications).
Alleged by some. The A-10 is specifically designed to be a close air support aircraft, a "tank buster".nuclear armed base
Col. Halt was the deputy base commander at Bentwaters, which hosted half of the 81st Tactical Fighter Wing's 6 squadrons.
https://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/2022/04/suffolk-constabulary-have-record-dated.html
Halt was career USAF but not USAF Security Police. He was relatively new to the area.
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