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Xenu and Nibiru? ;)

Have these guys found the actual Calvine location...? Source: https://twitter.com/i/status/1571447957349605378

I think the only people who are profiting from the UFO/UAP story are the ones promoting it on TV shows.

So, Travis Taylor, Scientific Advisor to the UAP Task Force seems to think that there's an organised group of debunkers who are paid to discredit UFOs. Source: https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1571197516183654400?t=GOfHgV4RaJ7C6etJ_oiicw&s=09 What evidence can we find to confirm...

Yep thanks. Got a copy of them both.

The full Rubber Duck Video has just been released to YouTube with the full screen metadata visible. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuPZicXRZnQ&ab_channel=NYUAPDISCUSSION Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FUPDa49Cmg&ab_channel=NYUAPDISCUSSION Can anyone download this ... ?

I agree. The cruise ship hypothesis doesn't really fit at all.

The second video I linked to in post #41 shows that the direction to the Starlink train was exactly in line with the sun when it was below the horizon. This could have created a particularly bright flare from the satellites. I've never seen Starlink flare quite so brightly, but I have seen other...

I agree. Some of the videos posted do not look like Starlink to me, but those that I posted recently do. We have a matching time, matching place in the sky, and a matching appearance. I'd say this is Starlink with about a 99% confidence level.

I'm starting to agree with the idea that this was starlink https://udgtv-com.translate.goog/noticias/confunden-satelites-starlink-ovnis/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp Some new videos: Source...

Just checking the claims in the first post. Heavens Above does state that the Starlink satellites train from the launch on 5 September would have been visible from Jalisco at the (rough) time of the sighting.

Two posters on Reddit have posted claims that this is Starlink. (I'm not yet convinced). But will look into their arguments. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/x94537/falsifiable_hypothesis_for_mass_sighting_in/ And another... Source: https://youtu.be/niH1IHVMN8I

Well @LilWabbit , you can debunk rainbows all you like, but try debunking this....

Sorry - just my oversensitivity at the moment. A bit 'too soon' :(. But hey, the debunking must go on.

I think what's not immediately apparent with these lights is that the motion seems to be in one direction, (say left to right), but on closer inspection the lights appear in the other direction (right to left). I've tried to find a video & timecode that shows it best. Source...

I don't event think this even needs a thread. Particularly not now.

Not necessarily true. Yes it's true for illumination flares which have a parachute and descend slowly, but decoy flares burn very intensely for a short duration. Source: https://youtu.be/J2lSmPhHEro Source: https://youtu.be/c5hunxT7MEU

Ah, I thought you wanted the time for the ADSB Playback :D It was flying around the area at the time shown below (around 4.30am - ish) For time conversions I use: https://savvytime.com/converter/utc-to-ca-los-angeles

Roughly 5am UTC.

This pass of the helicopter fits... Produces this 3d pass in Google earth