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  1. Edward Current

    Sitrec - Metabunk's Situation Recreation Tool - Development Discussion

    If by "basically" you mean "following the same math function from beginning to end," which according to measurements taken from my model is a 3rd-order function (backward–upward acceleration that increases at a constant rate). As I've said elsewhere, I'd like to know how any kind of aircraft...
  2. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    Is that a door? Because the window and skylight suggest it's a door.
  3. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    To quote an earlier comment: Seriously though, back at the beginning of this thread, we realized that "aliens" in the question needed to be generalized to something like "non-conventional intelligent entities," which would cover everything on the list. So the question becomes, what would...
  4. Edward Current

    "Door" on Mars

    An awful lot of people think this is a door. Don't knock it
  5. Edward Current

    Claim: Navy FLIR1 video seems to show Tic Tac antennas

    Is Earth about to be attacked by flying bathtubs? (I don't know; I'm just asking questions.) The amazing thing is, if you drew the obvious analogy between this and Jesus-on-burnt-toast, Marik's eyes would glaze over and call it a ridiculous comparison.
  6. Edward Current

    Which Gimbal scenario is more likely — 30 NM or 10 NM?

    I was referring to the writing, not you. But I can't stop you from self-identifying as such. Did a new discovery occur? I think I'm the first person to have suggested that reconciliation, and it was months ago.
  7. Edward Current

    Which Gimbal scenario is more likely — 30 NM or 10 NM?

    One would think someone trying to create the impression of objectivity would at least mention the other popular scenario. Instead we get this: Some people will search indefinitely for a more mundane explanation, because they cannot and will never accept the idea that this is an UAP. Ignoring...
  8. Edward Current

    Can Skyscrapers Fall Over on Their Side?

    Would that be true if you were applying exactly even force exactly straight down, and to all of the can's mass, rather than the force and your foot being at nonzero angles and applied to the top only?
  9. Edward Current

    Can Skyscrapers Fall Over on Their Side?

    There is also just the scaling of gravity, and the square–cube law, which are counterintuitive for lay people. One can imagine a tennis ball can, or a soda straw or what have you, standing vertically on a flat surface, in a fictional environment where gravity is steadily increasing. There's no...
  10. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    This applies to the technology (and possibly information) category, right? I don't see much value in video evidence for establishing biological or materials discontinuity — except for maybe the example of a missile hitting something in the sky and disintegrating. Then again, if we need to be...
  11. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    That would be evidence of something, though not of aliens or even "advanced non-conventional entities" in general unless the exotic flight characteristics are distinctly discontinuous with present technology. For technology, I'm seeing two places where the flow chart forks: One is whether the...
  12. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    Yes. Okay. I shouldn't have used specific examples for these fringe "new physics" claims. Of course they're preposterous (as far as we know). But I think I have a general solution for any claim that aliens (etc.) are somehow leveraging new physics, e.g. moving non-locally like a supposed...
  13. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    Disagree that it's veered off. It has broadened. The topic started as being about aliens, but @JMartJr wisely pointed out that UFO enthusiasts believe in a broad range of non-conventional explanations for aerial phenomena. So, I broadened the category to "advanced non-conventional entities," so...
  14. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    Yes, I'm making stuff up in an attempt to cover things we aren't imagining. So, skeptics here are of the opinion that new physics could never happen under any circumstances. Huh. I think I'm out, too.
  15. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    Okay. Maybe it didn't come from outer space. Maybe it came from a higher dimension. I wonder if everyone feels that the only way an object could ever appear on Earth is if it conventionally and locally moved through spacetime at sub-luminal velocities. It seems to say that new physics beyond...
  16. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    Did I? The idea is that evidence from each category provides context for the other two. Eyewitness accounts contextualize video to some limited extent, and verified telemetry, or an artifact, or communication, contextualize both of them to a greater extent. I don't think it's a good idea to...
  17. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    I think we're making some great progress. The consensus seems to be that mere appearance of some "advanced non-conventional entity" (from aliens to advanced foreign technology to spirits etc.) will not convince skeptics. Videos and eyewitness accounts, no matter the number, cannot rise to the...
  18. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    Well...if folks in the Battery and Uptown both reported part of the same object directly overhead, that would suggest a minimum size. Maybe someday we'll figure out how to make objects or ourselves do this. There are plenty of people who believe that such things have been witnessed. They should...
  19. Edward Current

    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    What if it never approaches Earth? What if it doesn't land or leave artifacts? I mean, I don't believe for a second that it's possible or will ever happen, but if in the unlikely event there were such a thing as "inter-dimensional travelers," I should think it could be possible to gather robust...
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    What evidence of aliens would convince skeptics?

    Welcome to the discussion. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not convinced by minimal evidence. For breakthrough claims, I'm convinced by "beyond any possible doubt" evidence. It is a very high evidentiary wall, but there is eventually a way to get over that wall. That is what I'd like to...
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