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Yeah, it will be very interesting if they include more video's and pics of other cases in the report. It certainly will be busy here As for the longer Gimbal video, yeah, and what does the TV mode footage reveal I wonder? Hmmmmmmm As for the UAPTF report and what it will show, it depends on...

@Mick West Yeah, I was just about to post that twitter exchange. You saved me the effort I also thought Fravor said 5 minutes, but then I could be wrong. I think that quote has to be dug up and quoted here

Maybe she is conflating with the mythical video of the pyramid UFO with round lights on the corners that supposedly rises from the sea. Rumor of that has been going around for a while Sounds like BS to me, but it would be interesting if they ever show something like that

Fixed. :)

I think Lehto said Laser finding only happens when you manually? trigger it. And when it occurs an L on the screen blinks. It was the absence of that blinking that led him to believe no laser ranging occured

The interesting thing about the Gimbal video is what it doesn't show. ie TV mode footage. Why? Does it give it away?

Does anyone know if Kevin Day has ever said that he vectored Douglas Kurth to the Tic Tac location? I know in a report Douglas mentions being vectored there. But where is Kevin's testimony that matches that?

The question really is: Is the F-18's pod computer better at trig than Chris Letho. Chris says his rough maths are better, I think not. That's all it comes down to.

I wonder if today Kevin still says that about Fravor saying it barrel rolled around him How do you tell a cylinder is barrel rolling. By those tiny appendages?

That's interesting Where did Kurth say he saw the other F-18's , got a link to that

There is a report that says the Louisville was in the area of the Tic tac sighting. ie not near SCI It's in the AATIP report

@Domzh EW is only limited to the area the mobile emitters can be placed. IT can extend throughout the SOCAL Range Complex

Not what that's about, but it makes no difference as FY04 had even more C2W exercises at 600 odd

Lets explore it the other way around. Let's just say it was a cover story. That would tell you they were ok with coming up with a story to cover for one aspect of the event. And if they would do it for one aspect, they could do it for other aspects ie the Tic Tac. ie What if for example -...

No one apparently believed that explanation when they heard it. Ice crystals don't form a squadron and then fly at 100/140 knots horizontally to the ground over distance.

Guadalupe island is just over the southern most boundary of the SOCAL Range Complex- were training activities are held within If tracks ended there, it should give you a clue as to what was going on There's also a Mexican Marine base on Guadalupe Island

Two users on ATS spoke to him (through ATS and Facebook) when he returned under the name TheFinalTheoryReturns, and by doing so, were able to confirm he was who he said. Those two people inadvertantly left breadcrumb of who he was as well

I followed the bread crumbs and am pretty sure I found him. I did email him, but no response From the info I found, he was on the Nimitz at that time and was in a role that would have enabled him to do what he did

Here is a good source of Naval Drone info. Seems to have stopped being updated a couple years ago, but has good lists of each countries Naval drones they use http://www.navaldrones.com/

Elizondo: "You have the eye witness testimony of the individuals who got up close and personal to this thing as it was rotating" Mick: "Do we actually have eyewitness testimony, we have the audio on the tape" Elizondo: "Yeah, we have eyewitness testimony, you might not have it, but it's...