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How is it a lie if they honestly don't know. If they say we conducted an investigation - which asked the pilots who couldn't identify the craft, and they report such. No lie has been given. Doesn't mean a secret part of the defense force responsible for black or secretive projects didn't know...

It's not incompetance if it were a secretive program or black project test. Go and listen to a TD Barnes talk where he mentions how the US own defence forces didn't know about the SR71, and how US pilots used to report it as a UFO.

Doubtfull they are from a foreign power when there are things like this in the 2nd incident report from the article I linked "Most curiously, this report notes that "surface traffic was light with only a single stationary commercial fishing trawler and a single unidentified US Naval vessel...

@Mick West What are your thoughts on the new pilot reports leading up to the Gimbal event? Seems they encountered drones and balloons , even the quadcopter type at altitude remaining still in wind...

Well they are not really releasing much. I mean it's some non descriptive reports of drones and balloons.

IMO, this an internal test of their secretive EW program. Look at the reports , one of them said they saw a Naval ship that went unidentified. Which they noted was strange

My money has always been on a secretive Electronic Warfare test, ie as described in these articles. It explains a lot, the weird radar signals, the drones, the balloons shaped like cubes in spheres, the sub, the secret nature where people were kept in the dark etc...

Well this just happened. Looks like Pilots reported Drones and Balloons leading up to the Gimble event on the east coast Even quadcopter drone fleets that were hovering at altitude...

Well , if you are asking for an opinion , then to me it's all just a charade. Showing a little to keep interest , but covering yourself just enough to avoid being called out Given he has said a number of the items are not "Special", if you try and prove one of them is not "special", you are...

I suppose it's worth noting that Elizondo said that only some of the objects in that slide are "special", the rest not See below from about the 40 minute mark Source: https://youtu.be/fEusBq6Ghac?t=2403

Pretty sure in the Gimbal video they talk about L+S as per below. Hard to tell clearly, but sounds like they say something like "Is that on L and S though" Anyone know what L+S is?