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Clarke speaking in the Disclosure video (40:52) - [Lindsay] was also concerned about data protection because on the back of the print was written in bright red letters the name of the copyright holder - we presume the name of the photographer - but he wouldn't let us see the name and he...

Exactly. Evidence that "hoaxers rarely are successful on first try and usually don't stop trying" - one example doesn't (and can't) support that. And probably we both know that there isn't any evidence that could possibly support that - short of sampling a thousand or two hoaxers. ;)

The poachers thing is nonsense if you ask me. Clarke's "source from Defence Intelligence claims they were poachers who had killed their prey and were posing with the animal when the ‘UFO’ appeared" - which makes them the most efficient poachers ever, literally racing straight from work, driving...

Nick Pope in his 1996 book: "I kept a blow-up of one of [the Calvine] photographs on my office wall until one day my Head of Division noticed it, took off my wall, and took it away." Nick Pope writing on his website in 2012: "In 1991 when I joined the UFO project a poster-sized enlargement of...

Getting around to checking Nick Pope's version of the Calvine incident as recounted in Open Skies, Open Minds (1996) since it's the closest account to the actual date. Differences from the current general story: Pope says the witnesses "became aware of a low humming sound" and then turned to...

I don't think the "how did they fool the MoD and why couldn't they figure it out?" narrative is quite right. From Clarke, 2021: When I spoke to RAF Air Commodore Simon Baldwin he dismissed the theory that the object in the photograph was a Stealth aircraft. He believes the whole story is a...

On August 22nd at 1pm (I presume that's my time, so 1900 UTC) David Clarke and his 'team' will be hosting a YouTube Q&A with regard to the Calvine photo. Questions are to be submitted by email and I was thinking maybe we could compile a list of metabunk qs and one of us could send that in...

This is what he actually said: "Since that time I have established to my satisfaction (via inquiries and interviews on site some of which I can't reveal at this point) that the 2 men were chefs working in kitchens at a hotel in the Pitlochry area at the relevant time."...

My first time noticing that under a YouTube video you can click three dots and select "show transcript": From 46:15: "I just picked up the phone and tried the number, it was the Atholl Palace Hotel. [I asked] "is so-and-so around?" "yes i'll get him for you" and uh [...] "tell me what you did...

Mark on the photo or even negative is my guess - ie, nothing to do with the actual image. Best protocol here is to quote the source and post what Lindsay actually said.

Ah yes, I see the circle very clearly if I tip my laptop screen away from me - it actually runs through the object too, so not moon.

Any evidential support for this statement? I've seen it said a few times but it doesn't strike me as true.

Actually easy. You say what you want to say forwards, listen to it backwards and write it down phonetically, then say that. I used to do this as a kid on a 4-track.

Just gathering info, and whatever we think about him he was very close to the material, the people, and the date. Also interesting to see how his story might have changed over the years. Keep up the good work Chelle!

Here's 179 and end of chapter: Next chapter is him saying he's convinced that there's no UFO cover-up by the UK government.

Nice. Didn't think to search a text that says "not available". Great tip.

Thanks. It's only missing 290 pages. :D

Anybody got a copy of Nick Pope's book 'Open Skies, Closed Minds'? If so, could we get a screenshot of what he says in it about Calvine? Couldn't find an excerpt online.

Nice. Where's that from?

Apparently Graeme Rendall has put quite a bit of work into trying to locate where the Harriers were at the time, as mentioned in this nicely-written summary that covers most of the things we've talked about in this thread: [article...