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Probably I'm wrong. They do say nihilism is just a passing phase...

One would think so, but I think we might be hard-pressed to find even a few dozen people who had come to realise they were "wrong". Also, thinking about what flat earth belief is built on - space is fake, history is a lie, all governments are colluding in the deception, all stories about...

Nope, definitely not. Just saying if I was in his shoes I'd have a hard time looking myself in the mirror. But I'm not in his shoes so it's all good (he's the one in his shoes; and I'll be in mine if I can find them).

While we know there wouldn't be a horizon on a flat earth, if you're going to work out something for their hypothetical model I guess you also have to use their hypothetical logic, where there is a horizon (no matter how peculiar the reasons).

Just get in with the New Age crowd: a common saying there is "the universe is conspiring to help me". See also: pronoia. Like many things, pronoia and paranoia seem like two sides of the same coin.

I confess, I speculated something along those lines when I recently heard you talking about your Catholic upbringing and the disillusionment/disappoint that followed when you decided there was nothing in it (really terrific interview, by the way). Reminded me of a comment you made in the...

...we would if we could! :D That's a joke - I'm assuming that's where your dots were heading - but there may be some out there that think that way. Their ideas and mode of thinking is what the opponents want to no longer exist. If all other methods fail, why not just make the people themselves...

Does it matter that a running track isn't a circle? I guess he means this bit in green: A semi-circle with radius of 46.26m. Got it.

Not really. He's still doing flat earth and other silly stuff. Perhaps he's weaning himself off and trying to move into a new area - but many times less views on the goldfish and ostrich videos than on his "flat earth fail" stuff so it'll be interesting to see which direction he takes now he...

I don't think so. When I was doing my flat earth debunking videos I was both trying to do it in a way that wasn't snarky or insulting and that challenged other debunkers to be less like that. Indeed, after some time I felt that I would have a much higher probability of success in helping...

I can't disagree with your overarching points. But I'm also glad you reposted that quote. What I meant was "CTists have more mistaken beliefs about certain specific world events and how the world generally works than debunkers do." That seems the same to me as "off base" or "missing the mark"...

Well, I'm sorry to hear that you feel so bullied that you don't want to share your thoughts on that. But won't push. I will just ask though - if I'd typed: would you still have stated that you "strongly disagree"? That was my original rendering - but I changed it to "off base" because I'd...

In before someone else posts. There is this: But that's all.

This has been explained by Snopes here (as well as elsewhere) but I want to add a few little details that I found interesting. The story goes that various news outlets reported that a "NASA engineer/scientist" had told Conan O'Brien about a NASA mastubation ban, whereas the idea of a ban and...

Can you explain? (And to make sure there's no misunderstanding, what I meant by "in these regards" was to do with the psychological analysis of what's behind our respective viewpoints. To summarise, debunkers tend to feel that there's something a little bit wrong with their mindcogs - perhaps...

Nice one. Thanks for finding that.

Yeah - which is why I was hoping to steer it more towards "how about we look at ourselves" (as well as the fact that "CTists do it cos they want to feel special/secure" has been done to death and seems to be missing the point). I think Mick's point still stands - CTists do seem off base way...

It's supported. :)

Very interesting. It does seem, with most things I look at, it's usually a case of "same as it ever was". I've long felt that it wasn't that "crazy thinking" was on the increase, it's just that it's much more visible now. Also reminds me of words from spiritual types: it doesn't matter how far...

Yeah but JFK is the mother of all theories. Can't really compare Reagan and OJ with that. (I'll admit, I've only skimmed the paper.) Like people who think Obama is actually a woman and Michelle is a man.