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To me, it for sure looks like a string with balloons, all coming (pulled out) out of a large bag. I cannot for the life of me think of anything making more sense.

From the story as reported in this link https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/26/politics/white-house-lockdown-airspace/index.html, it seems at least one fighter jet pilot saw a flock of birds.. However, air traffic control audio reviewed by CNN showed that the responding military aircraft, operated by a...

So if I understand it correctly, the video's were available, but Lue asks defence for them to be unclassified? Or am I completely missing the story so far? I am lost....

I am not so knowledgable on this whole AATIP stuff, what is the context of this thread? Why are these important documents?

purpleivan, I like the bird theory. However, what you show happens in a fraction of a second. Some birds a quick, but that quick?

Interesting! I also just watched the analysis from Rob Woodus on Youtube agian, and I like how he created track points in the image showing the shifts in perspective. Check some stills from the video below.(source: http s://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFN7KofHpcY). What he shows here is interesting...

Absolutely. Have not seen real good matches yet though. For some reason the (bug?) flight as seen in the Utah video is very smooth but also very fast. The video's of bug's from Youtube are all basically blobs, in a straight line passing through the frame. So the objective would be to find out if...

Sorry to bump this fairly old thread, but I recently "debunked" another picture from Starman on Reddit. I made happily use of the commonly known lens flare debunking techniques. Below you see the original picture of a "strange shape", and after it an image with the optical reflection...

I agree. I remember the rods... Indeed it argues very well against CGI.

We should focus on the video subject of the topic. Not generalise and group everything. We have a number of analysis and none is conclusive yet.

I am completely for any earthly explanation or CGI but the last responses in this thread more or less say "well it is bugs, so shut up". This is I think not the way we should tackle the problem. I thought we should explain things by proof using models and simulations that without doubt explain...

I am still on CGI. The trajectory and behaviour of flight does not match with a bugs flight. The lastly posted "comparison video's" are entirely not identical to the Utah vid..

Good points, purpleivan. I was also thinking about this option. I think your recreation is a good example on how to prove an argument. I would not be able to do it this quick, so thanks.

As I do not believe objects can move that fast without a trace, and a bug I also find crazy, so it must be added imagery, cgi.

[Admin: The Following video contains a summary of the key parts of this thread] Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkqKa_NQAo A few days ago, a youtube video was posted on Reddit r/UFO's showing an object flying by a drone, with the description: I usually cover politics, but when Sam...

I saw a documentary about this one a while ago. It is to fascinating that Jan could fool Philips! He demo'ed the box for them, but did not allow the engineers from Philips to look inside the box. Wonder why? ;)

Anything "dusty" or "smokey" is a bad thing for your health. But, some people get sick, and some don't.. Just like not all smokers get cancer. My dad used to work as a carpenter in a woodworking environment, with big machines blowing saw dust everywhere. These were the days that dust extractors...

I found a great link explaining what I thought was indeed the case: the stray light on the ccd detector due to the compact design of the spectrometer. The link is from a competitor spectrometer company, but the specifications are the same: the Czerny-Turner Spectrograph. I used a similar one...

I agree here. I was not specifically talking about UV, so both our statements hold. :)

Handy, but the transmittance of course depends on a lot more then only O3..