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That's why Graves's ASA has an advisory board with some scientists on it. If UAP continue to defy conventional explanation — we must invest in scientific research. To write this in good conscience, they can't just ignore conventional explanations.

They were at the same height and quite close, so, unlikely. I think we're measuring speed relative to the clouds? But then there might also be an element of parallax from the drone movement.

I believe this would profit from circles or arrows. Is it visible on screenshots of the video, or does it only show up in the composite?

Perspective affects the path of the aircraft and the length of its body equally; so it is travelling in excess of 8*63m in 2 seconds, that's 504/2=252m/s=490 knots. If you can up your estimate to more than 512 knots, you'd have proven the aircraft is not a Boeing 777-200, but rather a shorter...

Or it could be quite small, see @NorCal Dave 's post above. That is why I rested my criterium for reality on "manoeuvering without support". Satellites need to be in the right place at the right time.

@FatPhil I made a new thread for Worldview at https://www.metabunk.org/threads/worldview.13123/ , please find my reply there.

I ought to amend this. I think we can take it that it's an EG&G patch from a team that worked at Groom Lake, probably on EW/RCS analysis. But it doesn't prove anything related to extraterrestrial craft or alien visitors, and there's no reason for Ross Coulthart to imply it does.

I feel we ought to say this: if these pictures are real, if the photographer saw these flying saucers manoeuvering without support, then we probably have alien visitors. But the fact that the witness is anonymous and that only these few perfect pictures exist and that they've not been seen...

It's not a scientific position, for sure.

Conclusion: The patch proves nothing. Thus, the possible Star Trek reference proves nothing. All that's left is a 4th-hand UFO story with no supporting evidence. And it's coming from the journalist who sold us David Grusch's claims on trust.

Refer to my post at https://www.metabunk.org/threads/alleged-flight-mh370-ufo-teleportation-videos.13104/post-297755 , or section 1.12.3 in the accident report. Parts 1, 10 and 19 carry numbers that identify them individually as being installed in 9M-MRO. Parts 1, 8, 10, 19, 20, 22 and 27 (and...

As close as the drone is to the contrail, it should be experiencing wake turbulence from the B-777. The Boeing 777-200ER has ~300 t MTOW (maximum take-off weight), which puts it squarely in the "heavy" category. Air traffic control ensures a minimum of 2 minutes separation for light aircraft...

I don't think it's been demonstrated that this took "great amounts of time". I think this was easier to create than to debunk, and the VFX use and other features of the videos show that the creator expended the necessary effort but not more.

UFO-related: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/ufo-acronyms-what-is-the-liz.11742/ , feel free to ask or add. If you have others that aren't UFO-related, that you think would be useful, I recommend starting a post titled "Acronyms" in the "Practical Debunking" forum.

@Mick West at the time the hoax was made, it was not widely known that the Satcom of 9M-MRO kept talking to INMARSAT-3 F1, proving that the aircraft remained airborne for hours after its last radar contact, moving generally away from the geostationary satellite. However, the coordinates on the...

So, ask around Roswell? Or Las Vegas?

You are right about the last bit, but wrong about the first. From your transcripts at https://threedollarkit.weebly.com/blog/coultharts-egg-shaped-ufo-from-outer-space : He also took a smartphone image of his great uncle's EG&G Engineering Group and their insignia patch this was a young man who...

That'd be easier with names.