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If any chemtrail buff were able to afford to charter an aircraft capable of the altitude at which persistent contrails were forming on that particular day... they'd find their own aircraft creating persistent contrails.

Creepy clown mayhem at Penn State described in campus newspaper. http://www.collegian.psu.edu/article_9bc1ab52-8a0a-11e6-b743-07c43275e4c2.html (10/04/2016 | 5:44 p.m.) Penn State Police reported no violence, property damage or injuries, but did receive multiple noise complaints...

The distance between the two airports is 1,500 miles along a curved line. Instead of telling you things, maybe it's best to ask you some things. When you drop a bomb from a plane does it drop straight down? If you were the bombardier would you release the bomb when the plane was directly over...

It's not just a matter of trying to convert FE believers. When FE believers make basically flawed arguments even well meaning people often can't respond, due to holes in their understanding of basic physics. One example: No basic understanding of inertia. I've seen all these arguments...

Perspective? Aren't we talking about parallax here?

There are quite a few dry lake beds in California and Nevada. How do you tell the surface is exactly level? When the winter rains come along, it's common for a lake bed to be covered with a thin layer of water only inches deep. You can still drive over the lake bed, but on a still day the...

I had my own lonely period. More than a year ago I started to tell people that there were people who believe the earth is flat. They thought I was at least half a crackpot. I was told that those FE folks were just giggling, self-aware Trolls or Poes playing around, and I was dumb enough to...

This company is planning to give tourists balloon rides to near space - 100,000+ feet. http://worldview.space/voyage/#overview They say, "We are planning to launch our first flight towards the end of the 2016 calendar year..." It's costly - $75,000

I would guess that he was banned because the thread was going nowhere. Sandor could not acknowledge or recognize his own basic errors and would not answer questions satisfactorily, instead just saying "you're wrong, lol" in a number of ways. Two examples: Never acknowledging that there might...

First - You want me to look at a photo of a lake and see what its three dimensional shape is? I don't know where to start with how many problems there are with that. Scale. Distortion. Not going into it. More importantly - If the authors of this paper found that the surface of Lake Balaton...

Yes, thanks for the correction. And I shouldn't have said, "the same distance." Distance isn't equal to potential energy... except on a perfect and perfectly homogenous sphere.

Furthermore, Sandor. Just on a common sense level, do you really think that the authors of a paper in the field of Geodesy are saying that the Earth is flat? I mean just causally saying the earth is flat without making a huge announcement of it?

I've just spent the last hour looking at the paper you reference - and another paper I found on the Internet - to give me, a complete layman [!], some idea of what these terms mean. I ran across that sentence containing the word level and I was sure that was what you were focusing on. I've run...

We should make it clear what a retroreflector is. This is a good article: http://glimling.com/blog/2016/01/27/reflector-science/ When light falls on a flat glossy or reflective surface like a mirror, it only goes back to where it came from if it falls straight into the mirror (the pink ray)...

The "reflection" of the buildings is an inferior mirage. The stretching is called towering.

The original experiment was supposed to be between two points on the shore of the lake, 23 km apart, as explained here: Then a "pre-test" was done with a laser shining on a target on a boat. This was only supposed to be an early test of the equipment and procedures. With a new laser...