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  1. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    Apologies it’s not the best quality but this was a video which I can’t upload.
  2. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    I can’t get the videos to work so will just post a few pictures of the process and then shut up. Using my highly sophisticated devices including - wife’s vanity mirror ( it can pivot on one axis and its base rotates on another laser pencil as I said, highly sophisticated... You can see I must...
  3. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    I’m sorry if we are talking past each other somewhat. It’s difficult to describe. I fear I’m flogging a dead horse here. I’m talking about the front ball that the lens is housed in. Which I drew in images above. There are 2 axis on a gimbal. The middle section with lens can pivot. This would...
  4. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    The vids don’t work ? Damn sorry will try again another way if I can.
  5. Daniel F

    NYT: GIMBAL Video of U.S. Navy Jet Encounter with Unknown Object

    It sounds to me like pilot - that’s not L + S is it ? wizzo - that is L + S dude pilot - well the flir is... interruption by wizzo - look at that thing ! Its as if the pilot was about to explain something, possibly why he thought it wasn’t l + s, as if there is some contradiction in the data...
  6. Daniel F

    NYT: GIMBAL Video of U.S. Navy Jet Encounter with Unknown Object

    See my earlier reply. He is an f18 pilot. Was actually on Nimitz at time. Has Fravor on one episode of podcast to discuss. They know each other from their time on nimitz. Fravor was his boss.
  7. Daniel F

    NYT: GIMBAL Video of U.S. Navy Jet Encounter with Unknown Object

    Also, for what it’s worth, the guy who mentions this in the podcast above is a fighter pilot. In fact he was on nimitz at time of incident. He wasn’t involved, says he didn’t know anything about it at the time, but knows Fravor and actually interviews him about it.
  8. Daniel F

    NYT: GIMBAL Video of U.S. Navy Jet Encounter with Unknown Object

    Slave is not a mode in itself. The icons on right mean you can slave to either launch and steering (l+s) or boresight ( bst) . This is a quote from the host of the fighter pilot podcast who goes through the onscreen gimbal data . Around 3.20 mark - ‘ You can slave the atflir, either to your...
  9. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    The ball rotates around with very subtle pitch on other axis.
  10. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    I understand that the derotating device constantly corrects the image. My point is that, given the coordinates that the gimbal (stuck to two axis ) is tracking, it must constantly rotate. I apologise sincerely if I’m missing something blatantly obvious. Here is a sophisticated re-enactment of...
  11. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    Also, Mick, I do mean the ball rotates and not the cylinder. That is what is happening in the last pic I posted.The ball must rotate around. The lens is on the ball, hence the lens is constantly rotating.
  12. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    :) Admittedly I am full of strange ideas ! I had thought of that starting point obviously but - Are the internal mirrors really able to see and track a target 54 degrees left from this position and track it right across ? This presumption is different to your workshop video. If that’s correct...
  13. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    I have read through the posts. I agree Micks videos are fantastic. Thats what brought me here. The gimbal rotation glare theory is also fantastic. I’m in no way trying to trash one theory or another and I’m also not Raytheon atflir technician - I’m a bespoke joiner :) not quite the same field, I...
  14. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    The f18 is also banking which compounds the issue, I think.
  15. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    This video doesn’t show that the gimbal doesn’t need to rotate. I’ve done some physical experiments and any gimbal must rotate without question if following that path. If an object was perfectly level with the camera and moved all the way across without deviation of its vertical position , only...
  16. Daniel F

    Hypothesis - Rotation of Gimbal not caused by lens glare.

    Hi there, This is by no means done with arrogance and claiming to be the correct interpretation. Just think there is enough evidence to warrant the hypothesis and a discussion. Apologies if this is similar in some ways to other threads but felt hypothesis and attached evidence can stand alone...
  17. Daniel F

    NYT: GIMBAL Video of U.S. Navy Jet Encounter with Unknown Object

    Doesn’t look good does it ! its an issue but you have to believe either 1. He genuinely believes that it was in tv mode and has an aura, despite having watched it probably hundreds of times and being well trained with these systems. 2. He just conflated the two videos in that moment in a simple...
  18. Daniel F

    NYT: GIMBAL Video of U.S. Navy Jet Encounter with Unknown Object

    Indeed the footage titled FLIR1 does switch through tv mode, so maybe he was just confusing the two in the heat of the moment. He probably knew millions would be watching. Could be quite nerve wracking .
  19. Daniel F

    NYT: GIMBAL Video of U.S. Navy Jet Encounter with Unknown Object

    Agreed. He’s obviously well versed in all the systems to a level you and I will never attain. But that just makes the gaffe even more surprising.
  20. Daniel F

    NYT: GIMBAL Video of U.S. Navy Jet Encounter with Unknown Object

    The atflir can switch between white hot, black hot and tv mode. He seems to put foot in mouth and says ‘ now it’s in tv mode and has an aura around it ‘. It’s clearly black hot heat signature. He must have watched this a thousand times? I will give benefit of doubt though, and presume he...
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