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I recently had a little success with pointing people to sites with Skew-T diagrams, based on weather balloon measurements. Once the dew point and the temperature curve are explained (and how to read their scale) they can see for themselves: the temperature measurements in the high altitude...

My impression is that Al DiCicco is seriously troubled. He seems to be convinced that "people are dying" from the toxic stuff sprayed by planes (as he urgently stated in the Roxy Lopez Show recording). I wonder how someone in that state can be reached by reason. I also think it is possible...

Des O, I believe the idea is to bring the suphur into a level way above the troposphere. I am not qualified to judge if it will stay there, but if Paul Crutzen seriously believes that this is the smaller of two evils, I won't dismiss the approach immediately, even if the challenge would be...

I assume George B. wants to promote himself for a job at NWO ... Seriously, the sulfur injection ("artificial volcano") is openly talked about, but not with much fervor. Once I heard a talk from a meteorologist I know. The amounts of necessary material are vast - as in a volcano eruption; the...

There is now a posting including your link to the audio on the "Group 1" board, as a reply to Al's call for "tuning in". Lets see if it stays up ...

To me, her statement from last night sounds significally different. She pointedly refuses to take part in the 'Geoengineering Lawsuit' because there is "no evidence", rebuffing Al DiCicco and Robert Forgette.

Still, her statement about jet chemtrails will be hard to brush away, the more so as she obviously does not intend to stop her "activism".

Wow, just wow! A game changer?

I think that Robert Forgette is actually advocating participation of skeptics in the FB groups, provided they show willingness to help with the lawsuit (and be careful with "attacks" like trying to actually debunk chemtrails ...). Input about toxic limits and flight identification was welcome so...

I would have seriously considered sending $100 or so if there was a Paypal account. Anyway, there is no evil "them" to blame for the stall. Al DiCicco sounds a little bitter; he may realize that big words don't necessarily translate into big activism. BTW, I think the same applies to the...

Al DiCicco This lawsuit is not going to work if we dont send some money to the attorney. I spoke to him today and he has not received any checks. So, we have come this far, people say they are sending money, but non received. Hmmmm. 1823 people here and we can't raise $1000 in a week. I did my job.

This post is from the Facebook group "Chemtrail Geoengineering Lawsuit II":Fred Pinard How bout this...walk up to a congressman and ask him why he's allowing the Government to slow kill us...if he denies anything... shoot him in the face. It's only fare.Screenshot created 2012-05-16, 6:15 GMT:

For a trail sample, the plane wouldn't even have to go far as the weather in the south-western part of Germany is often favourable to persistent contrail formation - at least more so than in California ...

You are certainly correct about the historic aspects. I was referring only to the current state of things.

I would like to confirm that this PTB thinking is not very wide spread in Europe, as far as I know. In Germany, mainly the extreme left and right fringes of the spectrum are cultivating believes like this.

I have a feeling that Al DiCicco may be under some real pressure. The group description states "EVIDENCE DUE MAY 15 2012", and he scolded discussion participants for not taking decisive action and let their blood be tested.I am very, very disappointed and almost outraged that several so called...

While we are at it, a well-meant advice about those rain water samples: I would think twice about spending your money. Again a reminder that testing water with solid particles in it can not be compared to official values and limits (see post #8). The lab should make you aware of this...

I would like to second that. We should avoid "bashing" anyone, directly or indirectly, regardless of any justification. It will just confirm the opinion of those coming by and looking for confrontation. I for my part will try to be careful in that respect from now on.

There will always be crime. Therefore we will always need law enforcement (government).

No, English is not my first language. Did real jet planes crash into the towers?