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I would imagine they were inside bags and/or cases. So what you're really saying is, "do you really think they missed a guy carrying some bags to his room?"

Max Igan didn't account for magnetic declination. That would be one thing, for starters.

If someone took a GPS on the plane, what would they do with it? Maybe you can illustrate step-by-step what you think they should do, and why.

No.

I'd imagine it depends on what result the flat earther would like to see: in his understanding, pretty much anything's possible.

Agreed. If others are like me, they're thinking 2001 was, like, yesterday, and nothing much has changed. Then I remember I was still using dial-up in 2006; saw my first text message in 2002; and freaked when I first saw a phone take a really poor picture in 2003.

Agreed. ;) I think the only way to use this pic is if you have that photoshop tool that removes fences. :)

He's a journalist in Arkansas. I've had some PMs; seems a very nice polite chap and above board, just not familiar with how things work here. I know we've had a few "my friend showed me this nonsense - oh wait, there was no friend, it's true, you're all nutters" lately, but I'm pretty sure that...

Welcome! I'm rather ambivalent towards hate mail, but phone calls are nice. ;)

Cool. I'd definitely be up for drawing some lines if I can see 'em, and the picture has a high enough resolution. I noticed later that where you were is over 370 feet, so should be high enough to show a gap between eye level and horizon.

Seems like a lot of work, when you can just scroll up and dig those lovely WTC pics. :) Or check out Sly Sparkane's Empire State vid, which uses the same technique: Source: www.youtube.com/watch?v=aisuqNIzXCs

The "85 videos" has long been debunked - it actually refers to the number of tapes/cameras the FBI investigated, but almost all of them were irrelevant to the Pentagon attack. A full list and further explanation is available here...

I think you'd need a better image for that.

Neither can I, but I can check: There you go: you've never ever ever used it - ya monster! ;)

That's pretty convincing - it's quite something when the debunkers are designing better flat earth models than the flat earthers themselves. Also, not only does the light bend in that direction, but also as it travels from the sun to the various parts of the earth, like so: Images taken from...

What about merging spanner with informative? Spanner's probably the least used positive rating, and pretty much everything informative is useful, and probably vice versa too (I naturally expect disputes of that, of course). I was also thinking that if the disagree icon was a little more gentle...

Here you go - and in the right colour too: https://www.tester.co.uk/itl-general-use-insulated-spanner-choice-of-size Not quite the same, though. Adjustable spanners have grips, but as we can clearly by zooming in, rotating, and carefully observing in freeze frame, the one in the icon isn't...

I wondered if it might not be as easy for 3000 miles - is it the case that there's the one straight line at 47.6°N, and then the lines either side of that bend in different directions? Also, I guess we've no real idea where the bend 'begins', given the ad hoc nature of the model.

Looks like different handwriting on each of the notes, and not the same kind of card either. Though I didn't see anything in the video saying it was two sides of the same card. Also, the facebook group where I believe these were first posted - a self-described "hate group" - has now taken them...

Wouldn't they be converging at 3,000 miles in the flat earth model? That's definitely something I've long wanted to see (if possible, with just the bendy lines please).