TheNZThrower
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Some of the more conspiratorial news outlets allege that an organisation called C40 Cities seeks to impose a ban on dairy and meat consumption, and private car ownership etc... by 2030:
C40 Cities is, according to their website:
The report can be accessed here (https://www.c40knowledgehub.org/s/a...n-consumption-in-a-1-5-C-world?language=en_US), and a version which allows for highlighting and wordsearching is can be accessed here (https://expose-news.com/wp-content/...ture-of-Urban-Consumption-in-a-1-5C-World.pdf)
The sections of the report in question are as follows:
The report defines "consumption intervention", "progressive target" and "ambitious target" as follows:
So it seems that a progressive target refers to a target which can be achieved by consumption interventions that are based on current technologies and political will (e.g. what consumption habits the public are realistically willing to change). As in "we can achieve X at most based upon current technologies and what consumers are realistically willing to do." Ambitious targets are basically a what if scenario where consumption interventions based on future production technologies and a public that is more willing to adopt drastic changes to their consumption habits. As in "we can achieve X if we assume that future technologies improve and consumers are willing to do more than what they actually are realistically willing to do"
The report then expands upon the nature of what an "ambitious target" is.
The report also implies that the consumption interventions are implemented by the city through policy incentives.
Based on this, we can pin down both the main allegation and a steelmanned allegation as follows:
This was a rather tough one, especially since the allegations centred more around nefarious framing than any outright examples of dishonesty. If there is any additional context in the report I have missed, please let me know in the replies.
Article: Fourteen major American cities are part of a globalist climate organization known as the “C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group,” which has an “ambitious target” by the year 2030 of “0 kg [of] meat consumption,” “0 kg [of] dairy consumption,” “3 new clothing items per person per year,” “0 private vehicles” owned, and “1 short-haul return flight (less than 1500 km) every 3 years per person.”
C40’s dystopian goals can be found in its “The Future of Urban Consumption in a 1.5°C World” report
C40 Cities is, according to their website:
Article: C40 is a global network of nearly 100 mayors of the world’s leading cities that are united in action to confront the climate crisis.
The report can be accessed here (https://www.c40knowledgehub.org/s/a...n-consumption-in-a-1-5-C-world?language=en_US), and a version which allows for highlighting and wordsearching is can be accessed here (https://expose-news.com/wp-content/...ture-of-Urban-Consumption-in-a-1-5C-World.pdf)
The sections of the report in question are as follows:
The report defines "consumption intervention", "progressive target" and "ambitious target" as follows:
So it seems that a progressive target refers to a target which can be achieved by consumption interventions that are based on current technologies and political will (e.g. what consumption habits the public are realistically willing to change). As in "we can achieve X at most based upon current technologies and what consumers are realistically willing to do." Ambitious targets are basically a what if scenario where consumption interventions based on future production technologies and a public that is more willing to adopt drastic changes to their consumption habits. As in "we can achieve X if we assume that future technologies improve and consumers are willing to do more than what they actually are realistically willing to do"
The report then expands upon the nature of what an "ambitious target" is.
The report also implies that the consumption interventions are implemented by the city through policy incentives.
Based on this, we can pin down both the main allegation and a steelmanned allegation as follows:
- C40 member cities seek to implement a legal prohibition on dairy and meat consumption, and private car ownership etc... by 2030.
- C40 member cities seek to implement as of yet unspecified policy incentives (e.g. taxes, subsidies) with the goal of reducing dairy and meat consumption, and private car ownership etc... to zero - or to the level in the respective "progressive targets" by 2030
This was a rather tough one, especially since the allegations centred more around nefarious framing than any outright examples of dishonesty. If there is any additional context in the report I have missed, please let me know in the replies.
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