Captain R's Long UFO

[Mick West]

https://www.ryangraves.io/p/part-i-why-pilots-arent-reporting

From a post by Ryan Graves (posted Jun 28, 2024). Since it's a paid post I'm just extracting the minimum details:

• a routine red-eye from São Paulo to New York
• It began with a very bright point of light appearing directly off their nose, seemingly co-altitude with their Boeing 777 at 37,000 feet.
• It became apparent, due to the changing aspect, that they were witnessing an extremely long object traveling at speeds that far exceeded anything familiar to them.
• They estimated the object to be over a half mile long and at an altitude of about 90,000 feet.
• The luminous, ellipse-shaped anomaly passed directly over their aircraft on what had initially appeared to be a collision course.
• Before it disappeared from view, Captain R managed to capture the photograph [above]
• The entire encounter lasted 30 seconds.

This seems very reminiscent of a solved Starlink case
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/so...osses-the-north-pacific-starlink-stack.13071/

The photo, is very similar, here's the older case, known to be Starlink.


And the older MUFON report: https://updb.app/report/1-124190

5 airline pilots saw HUGE UFO CROSS THE SKY.5 airline pilots including one ex military saw a bunch of lights moving over 15Gs collaborate and then fly across the sky at a very high speed. We figure it was a mile long and same altitude. Approximately 37000 feet. It was about a mile long.

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We don't know the date of Captain R's UFO, but I very much suspect it's the same thing. A Starlink train just a few hours after deployment, seen from a plane.

 

[Mick West]

These lights are not stars, presumably reflections, maybe planes, maybe planets, maybe a combination:

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

Another case which involved a tight, newly deployed Starlink train: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/cylinder-shaped-object-in-essen-germany-starlink.12322/#post-267191

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

There are three types of Starlink sightings:

1. Newly deployed and bunched up train. Witness mistakes the train for a single solid object.

2. Still fresh but strung out train. The witness describes it as a line of bright objects.

3. Fully deployed individual satellites. The witness describes seeing individual, but related objects.


Or...
1. The Streak

2. The String of Pearls

3. The Swarm


The Streak is most likely to spawn a gigantic oval mothership report.

The String of Pearls is most likely to be recognized, nowadays, for what it is. The problem with that familiarity is that witnesses think that all Starlink sightings must look like the String of Pearls. If they don't see the String of Pearls, it can't be Starlink because... "I know what Starlink looks like."

The Swarm is the type most likely to be reported as a Racetrack sighting. Although the String of Pearls can also be reported as such when seen in partly cloudy skies.

 

[flarkey]

There are three types of Starlink sightings:

1. Newly deployed and bunched up train. Witness mistakes the train for a single solid object.

2. Still fresh but strung out train. The witness describes it as a line of bright objects.

3. Fully deployed individual satellites. The witness describes seeing individual, but related objects.


Or...
1. The Streak

2. The String of Pearls

3. The Swarm


The Streak is most likely to spawn a gigantic oval mothership report.

The String of Pearls is most likely to be recognized, nowadays, for what it is. The problem with that familiarity is that witnesses think that all Starlink sightings must look like the String of Pearls. If they don't see the String of Pearls, it can't be Starlink because... "I know what Starlink looks like."

The Swarm is the type most likely to be reported as a Racetrack sighting. Although the String of Pearls can also be reported as such when seen in partly cloudy skies.

I'd say there's at least 5 more Starlink phenomena that have been reported as UAP/UFO....

4. The launch from nearby...

Source: https://x.com/805foodie/status/1760882283794534537


5. The launch from far away...

Source: https://x.com/RedpillAries/status/1805090205323419738


6. The booster re-entry ....

Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CCNHplhDZ8d/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=8eb474dd-1870-438c-a5de-d93b91b68302


7. The outgassing ...

Source: https://x.com/Love____unicorn/status/1805001807988408799


8. The rentry & burnup ...

Source: https://x.com/_JC84/status/1806951301277970783

 

[jarlrmai]

Those are common to rocket launches though, not just Starlink deployment launches.

 

[jarlrmai]

We don't know the date

They know enough not to give away any flight details now.

 

[Mick West]

They know enough not to give away any flight details now.

Theoretically, there's still enough data to ID the flight. You'd have to correlate all Starlink launches with all 777 red eye flights from Sao Paulo to New York. That's too much to do manually and quite a bit of code to even semi-automate.

 

[jarlrmai]

Theoretically, there's still enough data to ID the flight. You'd have to correlate all Starlink launches with all 777 red eye flights from Sao Paulo to New York. That's too much to do manually and quite a bit of code to even semi-automate.

Yeah even then it's a slight leap isn't it we'd know it was probably correct and we often do this to make our lives a bit easier when the data set is limited, then later on we check it correlates with other features in the video (star positions etc) but it's semi-circular reasoning.

 

[Mendel]

but it's semi-circular reasoning.

falsifiable, though!
(by those who hold the data)

 

[jarlrmai]

falsifiable, though!
(by those who hold the data)

Which is why they hold it tight these days.

 

[JMartJr]

Theoretically, there's still enough data to ID the flight. You'd have to correlate all Starlink launches with all 777 red eye flights from Sao Paulo to New York. That's too much to do manually and quite a bit of code to even semi-automate.

But if it happens to be something other than a Starlink train newly deployed, we'd wind up with (probably, barring coincidence!) the wrong flight on the wrong date looking at the wrong object. I mean, I think it's Starlink, but finding one (or many) planes matching the description that flew at the right time to have seen one would only show that it was possible that the flight in question might be the flight we found from which Starlink might have been seen. That there would be such flights seems sufficiently likely that I don't think the search would move the ball forward enough to be worth the effort, or even a somewhat lesser effort.

 

[Mick West]

But if it happens to be something other than a Starlink train newly deployed, we'd wind up with (probably, barring coincidence!) the wrong flight on the wrong date looking at the wrong object.

We do have the stars as an accurate test. If we got the flight ADS-B and the Starlink TLE, and we get a match with the stars, then it's near impossible to be anything else.

Anyway, not really worth the work.