Roxy Lopez Airplanes are designed with FUEL DUMP capabilities and happen all the time. Now to address
Mick WestSaturday at 12:52pm
Roxy Lopez agreed
Mick West that fuel dumps happen less than contrails. Correct.
Saturday at 12:52pm
Roxy Lopez
Mick West, indeed there is condensation, ice crystal, and contrails that can sustain. If you wish to learn more about the MILITARY, and what they are dumping, then you will have to dig deeper than pop mechanics....or contrail science.
Saturday at 12:54pm · 1
Mick West So the real question is how you can tell the difference between a chemtrail and a persistent contrail.
Saturday at 1:02pm
Sharon Gallagher There is a big difference the vapors from the fuel are hardly seen . They do disapate fast the chem douds do not and form so different and funnel down . Many pics to see the difference.
Saturday at 1:09pm · 1
Mick West
Sharon Gallagher, the fuel will evaporate very quickly. But Contrails don't because the air is ice-supersaturated. They can't evaporate because it's too humid, so they persist, the ice crystal grow in size, and the trail spreads out.
Saturday at 5:10pm
Shawn Gandee http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/hr2977.html Bill HR2977 read the bottom of this bill it says Chemtrails
Space Preservation Act of 2001
www.fas.org
H.R. 2977, introduced by Rep. Kucinich, October 2, 2001
Saturday at 6:06pm
Russ Tanner http://urlbam.com/ha/M006z
Chemtrail Information - The Great Contrail Con
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Saturday at 8:53pm
Roxy Lopez
Mick West, that is the question of a shill come on man, how are we really supposed to take you seriously at this point? lol!
Saturday at 11:21pm
Roxy Lopez bla bla ba bla bla
Saturday at 11:21pm · 1
Roxy Lopez Thanks
Russ Tanner
Saturday at 11:21pm
Mick West It's a serious question. If contrails can persist, then how can you tell what is not a contrail?
Yesterday at 2:47am
PalmtreeQueen Lampworks Glass Beads By being a serious sky watcher, now go wag your tail somewhere else Mick!
Yesterday at 6:21am
Russ Tanner You need to know about
Mick West... He runs the contrail science website (a chemtrail disinformation website) and metabunk which is another disinformation website that debunks everything else. He also posts on YouTube as Epoxynous and provides much chemtrail disinformation there. He is not your friend.
Yesterday at 8:35am · 1
Russ Tanner http://contrailscience.com/about/
About - Contrail Science
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Yesterday at 8:35am
Mick West That's me. I'd be happy to accept any corrections for anything posted on any of my sites. Russ, can you point out any errors on contrailscience.com?
Yesterday at 8:37am
PalmtreeQueen Lampworks Glass Beads Thanks for the info Russ!!
Yesterday at 9:31am
Roxy Lopez
Mick West, in my opinion (just mine and research) There are most likely errors on both sides of the fence. It however does not matter. Bottom line is this,the environment is being attacked....and to get into a sticky argument about which persisting contrails are the problem or not, is really not the point because none of us are scientists.
Yesterday at 9:41am
Roxy Lopez LOOK at the PATENTS: very telling
Yesterday at 9:41am
Roxy Lopez LOOK at the GLOBAL WARMING Propaganda , again, very telling, especially because most scientists believe that we are headed into a mini ice age
Yesterday at 9:42am
Roxy Lopez Notice that the propaganda machine is now telling us that our skies were covered in big X grids, checkered board paters, etc. as far back as the 50's. LIE. Not truth
Yesterday at 9:43am
Mick West
Roxy Lopez, I'm not sure that patents tell you much. There are lots of patents for mining on the moon, but nobody is actually doing it. Patenting a thing does not mean either that it works, or that it's being used.
Yesterday at 9:43am
Roxy Lopez Look at the NASA C>A>R>E projects dumping MILLIONS of tons of Aluminum into the atmosphere, why?
Yesterday at 9:44am
Mick West I don't think there were big grids in the 1950s, except perhaps during military exercises. But there were certainly individual contrails. There's just a lot more now.
Yesterday at 9:44am
Roxy Lopez Look at what Bill Gates is funding, the Keith Caldera's etc. another hoax, to mitigate RADIATION? In the 1800's we had bigger X-Flares as well as longer drought periods, and we did not even have planes back then.
Yesterday at 9:45am
Mick West Keith is actually against doing SRM geoengineering. I think his main motivation in researching it is so that people will be aware of the dangers and not do it.
Yesterday at 9:46am
Roxy Lopez
Mick West what you stated has been a consistent shill comment as well...it is not "there are just a lot more now". Check into HAARP, radar, satelite images, NATO, the age of NANO tech and smaller
Yesterday at 9:47am
Mick West Roxy, the CARE rockets only dumped a few kilos of aluminum.
Yesterday at 9:47am
Roxy Lopez Sulphur Oxide, ask why dump Sulpher Oxide, look at the resoning and ask your self it if makes sense?
Yesterday at 9:48am
Roxy Lopez Look again
Mick West, not truth again.........I could put links here for your parousal Mik, but I think it is you that needs to do the homework in order to challenge me on this argument , with all due repsect.r
Yesterday at 9:49am
Roxy Lopez Take a look at what Livermore Labs has been doing, I am on the inside of that one, ad you cannot convince me otherwise.
Yesterday at 9:50am
Mick West They are investigating sulpher dioxide because it's essentially what nature uses. When a volcanoe erupts, it send a lot of sulpher dioxide into the air, cooling down the earth for a few years. So they are looking at duplicating the process. Of course there are lots of downsides, which is why nobody has done it yet.
Yesterday at 9:50am
Roxy Lopez Look at the Venus-mirror project, and the millions spent nearly 20 years ago with the Venus "mirror" project, you cannot dismiss any of this
Yesterday at 9:50am
Roxy Lopez
Mick West, you DISMISS all FACTS, and I have been open for the past 4 years ...very open minded, have been in scientific think tanks where I played the devils advocate (so to speak)...hoping and intending that science was doing something to HELP the earth. They are NOT doing any such thing.....
Yesterday at 9:52am
Roxy Lopez Sulfur dioxide is an intermediate in the production of sulfuric acid, being converted to sulfur trioxide, and then to oleum, which is made into sulfuric acid. Sulfur dioxide for this purpose is made when sulfur combines with oxygen. The method of converting sulfur dioxide to sulfuric acid is called the contact process. Several billion kilograms are produced annually for this purpose.
Yesterday at 9:54am
Roxy Lopez It is in our food as well used as a preservative: POISON
Yesterday at 9:54am
Roxy Lopez Sulfur dioxide is also a good reductant. In the presence of water, sulfur dioxide is able to decolorize substances. Specifically it is a useful reducing bleach for papers and delicate materials such as clothes. This bleaching effect normally does not last very long. Oxygen in the atmosphere reoxidizes the reduced dyes, restoring the color. In municipal wastewater treatment sulfur dioxide is used to treat chlorinated wastewater prior to release. Sulfur dioxide reduces free and combined chlorine to chloride
Yesterday at 9:55am
Roxy Lopez Same compound used in the cloud whitening expirements going on right now....what do you mean that they have not used it? Of course they have!
Yesterday at 9:56am
Roxy Lopez Sulfur dioxide is a major air pollutant and has significant impacts upon human health, period, and is not solely coming from volcanos.
Yesterday at 9:57am
Roxy Lopez In addition the concentration of sulfur dioxide in the atmosphere can influence the habitat suitability for plant communities as well as animal life
Yesterday at 9:58am
Roxy Lopez Inhaling sulfur dioxide is associated with increased respiratory symptoms and disease, difficulty in breathing, and premature death.
Yesterday at 9:58am
Mick West Roxy, all the issues you raise are good reasons why it's not been used. There's no actual evidence that anyone is spraying sulphur dioxide for geoengineering.
Yesterday at 9:59am
Roxy Lopez PLEASE don't try to tell the people on this thread that they have not experimented on us with SULFER DIOXIDE. NOT TRUE and there is obvious PROOF.
Yesterday at 10:00am
Mick West Sorry, I've not seen this proof. Also I though the chemtrail geoengineering theorists were claiming it was aluminum?
Yesterday at 10:01am
Roxy Lopez
Mick West there is PROOF. It is in our food for christ sake.......plants and humans have DIED and there is also proof. Please ....
Yesterday at 10:01am
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Yesterday at 10:01am
Roxy Lopez
Mick West at what length have you gone to to see this PROOF????? Are you a scientist ? So you are on the inside? If you are not on the inside, what are you studying, who are you calling, what letters have you written, have you spoken to EPA and other such agencies, have you gone to the colleges, have you spoken with many scientists and chemists? NO, you are on a FB thread claiming to LOOK for evidence.........and you REFUTE it all. You are an obvious gate keeper. I have enough proof and do not even get sidelined by this kind of conversation. Have a great day.
Yesterday at 10:04am · Edited
Roxy Lopez really really? there is PROOF everywhere. In the United States, the Center for Science in the Public Interest lists the two food preservatives, sulfur dioxide and sodium bisulfite, as being safe for human consumption except for certain individuals who may be sensitive to it, especially in large amounts
Yesterday at 10:05am
Roxy Lopez http://www.cspinet.org/
Center for Science in the Public Interest
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Yesterday at 10:06am
Roxy Lopez PLEASE the above agency reports to the FDA and we know the Food & Drug is not doing there job either....come on .
Yesterday at 10:06am
Mick West I'm sorry, this Sulphur Dioxide theory is new to me. I don't understand how you can say there's PROOF, and yet nobody is suing anyone?
Yesterday at 10:06am
Roxy Lopez Stop changing the subject
Mick West, you brought up sulfer D.
Yesterday at 10:07am
Roxy Lopez http://www.cspinet.org/nah/11_01/
Nutrition Action Healthletter - Genetically Engineered Foods: Are They Safe?
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Yesterday at 10:09am
Roxy Lopez there is your aluminum Mick, go down that rabbit hole yourself.
Yesterday at 10:09am
Mick West No, I think you brought up sulphur. I was responding to you.
Yesterday at 10:10am
Roxy Lopez Corundum is the most common naturally occurring crystalline form of aluminium oxide.
Yesterday at 10:10am
Roxy Lopez and there are your freaking ice crystal in the sky.
Yesterday at 10:10am
Roxy Lopez Aluminium oxide is an electrical insulator but has a relatively high thermal conductivity (30 Wm−1K−1[1]) for a ceramic material.
Yesterday at 10:11am
Mick West You know the soil is 8% aluminum, right? And up to 30% in hawaii.
Yesterday at 10:11am
Roxy Lopez As a catalyst and catalyst support
Alumina catalyses a variety of reactions that are useful industrially. In its largest scale application, alumina is the catalyst in the Claus process for converting hydrogen sulfide waste gases into elemental sulfur in refineries. It is also useful for dehydration of alcohols to alkenes.
Yesterday at 10:11am
Roxy Lopez Proof: Planar chromatography is a separation technique in which the stationary phase is present as or on a plane. The plane can be a paper, serving as such or impregnated by a substance as the stationary bed (paper chromatography) or a layer of solid particles spread on a support such as a glass plate (thin layer chromatography). Different compounds in the sample mixture travel different distances according to how strongly they interact with the stationary phase as compared to the mobile phase. The specific Retention factor (Rf) of each chemical can be used to aid in the identification of an unknown substance.
Yesterday at 10:13am
Mick West I'm sorry Roxy, I don't understand why you are quoting this stuff. What does it relate to?
Yesterday at 10:14am
Roxy Lopez Centrifugation is a process that involves the use of the centrifugal force for the sedimentation of mixtures with a centrifuge, used in industry and in laboratory settings. More-dense components of the mixture migrate away from the axis of the centrifuge, while less-dense components of the mixture migrate towards the axis. Chemists and biologists may increase the effective gravitational force on a test tube so as to more rapidly and completely cause the precipitate ("pellet") to gather on the bottom of the tube. The remaining solution is properly called the "supernate" or "supernatant liquid". The supernatant liquid is then either quickly decanted from the tube without disturbing the precipitate, or withdrawn with a Pasteur pipette
Yesterday at 10:15am
Mick West Are you just posting random stuff as some kind of general point?
Yesterday at 10:17am
Roxy Lopez Read it Mick, and go down the rabbit hole please. I have...and I have written papers on this stuff. Read it, and make your own observations, but lastly, do your homework and stop trying to tell me that non of these compounds are being used in the atmosphere. THEY ARE all being used....it requires a lot of reading, conferring with Boeing (I would say would be a great start for you) see if you can get the engineers to speak to you, look at the compounds in Jet 8 fuel and rocket fuel, distinguish the DIFFERENCE between EXHAUST and AEROSOL SPRAYING...then go to STEP 2.
Yesterday at 10:19am · Edited · 1
Roxy Lopez and NO non of what I have posted is random. AT ALL.
Yesterday at 10:20am
Mick West The centrifuge stuff? That seems entirely unrelated to contrails. It seems like you are speaking in riddles.
Yesterday at 10:26am
Roxy Lopez If you study it, you will find it is all related.
23 hours ago
Mick West So why can't you simply explain how it is all related? You can't go into a court and tell the judge to do his own research. You need to lay out the case.
22 hours ago