Can you honestly say that what you think human nature is, is entirely of your own accord. Or like i've been saying is a programmed response that compartmentalizes thought that you learned from Entertainment,so called education and religon.
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Very ironic, you speak as if you were a part of the Illuminati, because these are their promises for man.If the illuminati didn't exist we would have come to the concept of America alot sooner and it would be a universal appeal. wars would be on a much smaller scale if any at all. Disease and sickness would be a thing of the past. There'd be no such thing as hunger and racism would be nonexistant. Religon and mysticism would be fully explained. If there were any other type of beings out there everyone would know. I'd be at a higher plane of consciousness and so would you.
It's absolutely not of your own accord. See:
http://youarenotsosmart.com/
However that does not mean it's been deliberately programmed. People have always been narrow minded, and religion is more of a symptom of that than a cause. Religion has independently and naturally been part of life for thousands of years. Did the illuminati simultaneously affect the animism of Africa, the Shinto religion of Japan.
Religion has shaped thinking for a very long time. It needs no conspiracy to explain this.
But is it part of some vast centuries-long conspiracy, of simply the opportunistic acts of who ever happens to be there at the time? How can you tell the difference?
How were they supposed to have coordinated at a global level 1,000 years ago? Was feudal Japan part of the conspiracy in 1000AD?
I think you are saying there is a certain group of people who control the entire world from behind the scenes and use techniques of propaganda to make people not notice.
I think you think there's some kind of mystical component to this. Some kind of mental powers, some new age thing. Something being suppressed.
I think though, that everything you point to as evidence is just things any student of history and anthropology would expect to happen anyway. Governments engage in public relations, they always have. The church has evolved to retain members, so it's quote good at doing that in spite of being based on superstitions. Rich people will collude for mutual benefit. These things call all happen quite naturally in isolation.
I mean in a nutshell tell me what you think i'm trying to say about the illuminati.
But if its at the presidential level is it not safe to assume that their corruption can spread on a national scale without the illuminati conspiracy?
I don't understand why you think there's a single centuries old group. I don't think there's any evidence for it. All the existing corruption can just be explained by individuals or governments acting in selfish self interest.
The idea that there's some common thread behind the scenes does not hold water. Corruption is just human nature.
It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.
Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.
Did you read the entire speech? You realize it was a call to the newspapers to self-censor, so they would not be aiding the communists. Right?
So when you say he was "talking about" the communist conspiracy, what exactly was he saying? That communists exist? That they are out to get us? Sure. But everyone knew that. What does he say in the speech beyond that?
The international communist conspiracy was just a means to an end for those people who aided it and supported it.The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.
What do you think the end was? I mean once they had that system in place, then what would they do?
Technocratic world government. Government by, of, and for the ruling elites.
What they will do with this government is anybody's guess, but I doubt they have good intentions for the rest of us.
I don't know. When I look at the world's elites, I see a bunch of very rich people who like money and power. They seem to be doing just fine with getting money and power.
I also see a lot of different people in the elite. It seems perfectly reasonable that they got to their elite status (i.e. their rich and powerful status) simply though the usual routes - inheritance, luck, hard work, corruption. No world-wide, centuries old conspiracy needed.
Are you saying that capitalism is part of the communist plot?
Well, the greatest power and wealth lies not just in having billions of dollars, but in owning and controlling governments. Without control of government, wealthy people have to spend their money lobbying the government for special favors. They also have to spend their money buying propaganda to persuade people with and market their ideas. With control of government, wealthy people don't have to do any of that. They can simply tell the government and people what to do.
That seem remarkably implausible. The rich are doing a perfectly good job now spending just a small fraction of their time and money on manipulating the legislature. Notice just how incredibly rich they are?
You think the rich actually want the people to be slaves? How is that going to work?
The current system has worked very very well for the elite for hundreds of years. There seems very little to be gained from changing it.
Of course some of the rich want people to be slaves. Just look at human history. You'd be hard pressed to find a period in history where one group wasn't trying to enslave another group for their own benefit.
What I'm incredulous about is how you are reaching these conclusions with no real evidence. I'd be happy to hear some actual evidence.
Indeed, the evidence from world history seems quite the opposite. For hundreds of years the servitude of mankind has decreased. There's less slavery, less serfdom, less feudalism, less discrimination.
So why is humanity getting less and less enslaved? Is it all part of the plan, or a tide they are desperately trying to turn back?
How are YOU personally enslaved?
Well, the U.S. government claims a tax on the exchange of my labor. This tax is called the "income tax". If I don't pay the tax, the U.S. government can steal my freedom and lock me in a cage, the same way a slave owner might cage one his slaves for not producing enough. If the U.S. government can legally lock me in a cage and prevent me from trading my own labor for the things I need to survive, then I am effectively a slave, as the U.S. government is exercising its primary claim over my body and labor.
If a person doesn't own and control his own labor, he is a slave. Whoever it is that owns and controls the labor of another is the slave owner.
You get to earn $5,800 for free. They take a percentage of anything over that, with increments at various levels.
This is a LONG way from slavery and feudalism. It's just taxes. Something that's been around for thousands of years. They are not preventing you from trading your labor for things you need to survive.
Other than income tax, in what way are you enslaved? You are not forced to do anything. You can work or not work. You are not prevented from moving about the country. You can marry and have children. You can raise your children how you like. You can own guns and gold. So how are you enslaved? How are people enslaved more now than they used to be?
Is it just taxes? Is that the conspiracy?
Supposed you fixed this problem with the elites. What would the world look like? In what way would your life be different?