Has the 9/11 Truth Movement Stagnated?

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
In other words, I said there were events that could happen with some degree of predictability, and events like these are occurring now. I said they could draw uncomfortable attention to 9/11. Let's see if they do.
I bet they don’t. Care to make a more specific wager?
 

FFTR

New Member
Today, in the press we see that Trump is threatening to open classified files related to JFK. Speculations on his motive in the Independent:

In other words, I said there were events that could happen with some degree of predictability, and events like these are occurring now. I said they could draw uncomfortable attention to 9/11. Let's see if they do.
It seems the pending release of the JFK files was established by Congress in 1992. Trump can extend the withholding or he can let the law release date take place. No conspiracy on Trump or others part.

"But under a 1992 law on the JFK files, all records previously withheld either in part or in full are to be released on Oct. 26, 2017, unless the president authorizes that they be withheld longer."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/secret-john-kennedy-assassination-files-set-release/story?id=50630313
 

NoParty

Senior Member
My most reacted-to post so far, with 5 funnies and 3 disagrees. A quote from it:



Look what happened since I wrote that.

On Oct 19, Obama and Bush criticized Trump's leadership. They are the old guard. Both reflected on how society has become more divided. Bush said:

Which I agree with. I would say that is simply an empirical statement that reflects the mood in the US at the moment. In this context, it is not surprising that there is increasing interest in WTC 7 in Google searches.

Today, in the press we see that Trump is threatening to open classified files related to JFK. Speculations on his motive in the Independent:

Again, I agree with the analysis. Conspiracy theories can serve as a political football under current societal conditions and in this case can be directed towards factions within the government perceived as anti-Trump. As we all know, drawing attention to one conspiracy theory often directs attention to others. This may also increase interest in WTC 7.

In other words, I said there were events that could happen with some degree of predictability, and events like these are occurring now. I said they could draw uncomfortable attention to 9/11. Let's see if they do.
It's true that you said events could happen...and some events did happen. Did I miss the Nostradamus angle?
 

John85

Member
I bet they don’t. Care to make a more specific wager?
I said there were certain events which were predictable which could by their nature draw uncomfortable attention to 9/11. I didn't express a millenarial faith that the end times of the 9/11 lies were upon us.

There is a dynamic at play in US politics which could get out of hand when the Russia investigation comes to a head.

Hillary Clinton has claimed that Russian interference in the presidential election was a 'cyber 9/11', which is to say, an attack by state-backed external actors on US institutions.

In the context of the ongoing FBI investigations into Trump campaign/Russia links, Trump has suggested that a dossier of allegedly compromising material could have been paid for or commissioned by factions within the US working with Russian officials in order to discredit him.

So one side is openly speculating that the security services conspired with politicians and external actors in an attempt to engineer political change, while the other is evoking 9/11 analogies.

Add to this that Trump has to defend against internal opponents and rivals among the Republicans. One line he has already used against George Bush and Jeb Bush was that the former was weak on terrorism because he had the worst terror attack in living memory take place on his watch. Trump's campaign manager skirted across the line between failure and deliberate 'incompetence' previously:

 
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John85

Member
It's true that you said events could happen...and some events did happen. Did I miss the Nostradamus angle?
I interpreted the 5x funny and 3x disagree reactions to my post to mean that those MB members did not find my analysis at all plausible. I said some events were predictable, and they have come to pass. That shows the analysis was plausible.
 

John85

Member
It seems the pending release of the JFK files was established by Congress in 1992. Trump can extend the withholding or he can let the law release date take place. No conspiracy on Trump or others part.

"But under a 1992 law on the JFK files, all records previously withheld either in part or in full are to be released on Oct. 26, 2017, unless the president authorizes that they be withheld longer."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/secret-john-kennedy-assassination-files-set-release/story?id=50630313
Yes, which is indicated in the subheading I quoted:

 

NoParty

Senior Member
I interpreted the 5x funny and 3x disagree reactions to my post to mean that those MB members did not find my analysis at all plausible. I said some events were predictable, and they have come to pass. That shows the analysis was plausible.
Oh, my mistake. I thought you'd made a claim of something significant occurring re. WTC 7...

So again: you said events could happen...and some events did happen.
But you're choosing to interpret events happening as vindicating your posts (?)
 

John85

Member
Oh, my mistake. I thought you'd made a claim of something significant occurring re. WTC 7...

So again: you said events could happen...and some events did happen.
But you're choosing to interpret events happening as vindicating your posts (?)
Yes, events show that my analysis was plausible.
 

mudr0

New Member
On facebook someone posted this on a friend's wall:

Along with this pic.

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