I guess first, how long is the longest a contrail could possibly last. Under the perfect conditions? Also this bothers me even if it's totally safe. I don't want to see a sky like this it's ugly. And finally, what about the rainwater tests that people post with really high levels of al,ba, and sr? Are they just made up garbage? Thanks for replying.It's one of a series of photos recently posted on Twitter and other places that shows a very large number (over 30) of spreading contrails. There are several more here:
https://twitter.com/CAchemtrails/media
It was obviously taken in a region that gets flyover traffic in multiple directions, and on a day where the conditions were suitable at multiple altitudes for contrail formation. The next photo in the sequence is similar and appears to be London:
And here's another two photos, which could possibly the same contrails, photographed earlier.
Which can be stitched to form a panorama:
So, as asked above, what don't you understand? The amount of traffic? The persistence? The crossing routes? Why it happens some days and not others? There are a lot of valid questions you could ask, and there are answers, but we need you to be a bit more specific about what it is you want to know.
I guess first, how long is the longest a contrail could possibly last. Under the perfect conditions? Also this bothers me even if it's totally safe. I don't want to see a sky like this it's ugly. And finally, what about the rainwater tests that people post with really high levels of al,ba, and sr? Are they just made up garbage? Thanks for replying.
Do you think anything can be done to make them go away faster? I just wanna see the sky and not all the contrails.
I live in a small village near Humberside Airport in the UK and we occasionally get that kind of patternation too. Not on the same scale mind but of the type shown here. Now, the airport is not a large one and yet sometimes there are lines upon lines of contrails...
It's important to realize that when you see contrails, they are not being formed by the traffic locally arriving/departing at an airport near you.
This is 'flyover" traffic.
If you look at this link:
http://skyvector.com/?ll=53.57456921174049,-0.3510131811667493&chart=304&zoom=4
You will see a Chart of the normal High Enroute Airways, with Humberside centered. Then, you can manipulate the "map" as usual (same as with Google maps, for instance).
Ok guys my next question is what about the near perfect grids or "tic tac toe" patterns? Wouldn't they tend to follow the same paths?
Ok thanks I willBut also look at the south of UK image above. As well as the wind blowing trails from the same routes, there are lots of planes flying parallel routes.
Ok thanks I will
Ya that link is like chinese to me. Way over my head.
Ya skyvector. I will look into it more.
I cant figure out flight aware, either. I look at flight radar, but you have to kinda guess distance from yourself. http://www.flightradar24.comYa skyvector. I will look into it more.
They do have a distance scale on the map.I cant figure out flight aware, either. I look at flight radar, but you have to kinda guess distance from yourself. http://www.flightradar24.com
thanks. I meant how far to look regarding where the contrail might be, which plane path. as above you said it could be 100 miles away even though it looks like right over head. so people might think there's no flights right over head, so must be covert operations.They do have a distance scale on the map.
I cant figure out flight aware, either. I look at flight radar, but you have to kinda guess distance from yourself. http://www.flightradar24.com
thanks. I meant how far to look regarding where the contrail might be, which plane path. as above you said it could be 100 miles away even though it looks like right over head. so people might think there's no flights right over head, so must be covert operations.
I cant believe you got a screen shot of LA with only 2 planes showing!
ah. that's a good tip. wouldn't have thought of that.It's filtered for above 28,000 feet, only flyover traffic.
Sounds like Dutch, that sentence being very close to German, translating to: "Yes, and this is really not normal".what language is it? German?
I've merged in the above post, as the image in the OP seems to come from the referenced video:
Sounds like the person videoing says "Ja, Und dis ist ichnuch normal?" - what language is it? German?
Identifying the original video would be helpfull to fully explain it.
This channels has many similar videos, and seems to be the same location [Edit: although the houses look different]
It's important to realize that when you see contrails, they are not being formed by the traffic locally arriving/departing at an airport near you.
This is 'flyover" traffic.
If you look at this link:
http://skyvector.com/?ll=53.57456921174049,-0.3510131811667493&chart=304&zoom=4
You will see a Chart of the normal High Enroute Airways, with Humberside centered. Then, you can manipulate the "map" as usual (same as with Google maps, for instance).
I never know that! I just always assumed it was from planes diverging out from there but I see that makes far more sense and would explain the criss cross. So if that's the case then could jtmac's pattern happen anywhere that is on a flightpath?